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      Even T’Lyn thought Spock took things way too far.

      Basically, he’s lucky Sybok is his brother or he’d look awful.

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        The fact that he was offered Kolinahr probably helped a bit.

        The fact that he rejected it probably hurt a lot more:-P.

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          The fact he rejected it in part because (per the novelization) he felt Kirk’s thoughts across who knows how many light years, and he was wishing Spock was there. That’s love, baby 🥹 Don’t get me started on “t’hy’la”!

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            Yeah iirc the movie turned that whole arc into merely about sensing the “pure logic” from Veger or sth, but the book went into way more depth, it is a really good read. Also, no matter how sexual you think Kirk is, it’s 10x more than that - that horn dog beats Riker levels even, and he even made it work in higher additional planes, like intellectual. Riker wishes he had a third of that sexual magnetism in his brain:-D. And wrapping back to what you said, Spock managed to notice his friend’s thoughts from several parsecs away…

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    riker fucking anything that moves and playing trombone checks out. life on a starship is just extended band camp for him

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    I think it’s proof that much like actual people, well developed characters are complex and do not fit neatly into boxes.

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    I think this applies to their youths, but the pendulum definitely swung on both characters and it is the “casual” perception by the time the shows take place I think

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      Yeah, there’s a reason every bullet point is in the past tense. Also I feel like “cheated and got away with it” is being counted as a point in the wrong direction here…

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      Go watch Picard. Even beyond Picard making alcohol, now that he’s off the clock he drinks a lot.

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    I think part of the difference is also who they were during academy years and who they are at the time of the shows.

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          Oh no… do you realize what you have done here!?

          Count them: are there four hunks in the picture… or five? :-P

          Edit: THERE!! ARE!! FOUR!!! HUNKS!!?!

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            I’m not debating that Jonathan Archer is a hunk, even when Trip is literally right there but I can’t see Archer and not think of how the entire first and most of the second season of that show was his entire crew telling him an idea was bad and then ordering it done anyway. I don’t even remember where this episode falls but I’m 99% sure he was warned against exactly this thing happening before he got on the shuttle.

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              Oh is Archer there too? Please forgive my inattention - sexy Picard is all I have room for in my brain. 🥰 😇

              But anyway, at a guess the entire episode was literally designed to get them to take their shirts off? :-O

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            Not much to be found within the show, but there’s some nice shots of her from the early 80’s.

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      That’s a fun thought experiment. Weird to think about Kirk’s lines delivered in Shakespearean actor English instead of his iconic halting delivery.

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    I really love the way SNW is filling in that transition period where Kirk’s this hard driving, blue flame, academy nerd, who’s out be youngest captain ever, but he’s also deeply head over heals in love with Carol. And how it becomes obvious that when Carol breaks his heart soon he’s going start acting out and pretending he’s some kind of slut during the TOS period. But we all know he’s just crying inside because the love of his life has dumped him.