• Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 months ago

    I felt neutral towards Jewish folks prior to the recent gencocide being carried out by Israel. The response by Jewish activists to condemn genocide has shifted my feelings to neutral-positive. You’re telling me Orthodox Jews living in Israel oppose zionism and are harrassed by Israeli fascists? Sounds like a people with a commendable spirit and culture to me.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      4 months ago

      You’re telling me Orthodox Jews living in Israel oppose zionism and are harrassed by Israeli fascists? Sounds like a people with a commendable spirit and culture to me.

      You’re thinking of the ultra-Orthodox Haredi. And they’re… not pleasant people.

        • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          4 months ago

          “Oppose mass murder” is a strong term. “Think Israel is an illegitimate state because of some theological stuff about it Not Being Time Yet™ but hate non-Jewish minorities and don’t give a fig for dead Palestinians except insofar as the ongoing war might strip them of their long-standing exemption from Israeli military service”

          • Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            I’m going to be honest with you, I don’t really care what motivates them or really about the specific details you’ve decided I’m talking about. They don’t have insitutional power in Israel, and the Orthodox Jews I saw being harrassed on video were flying palestinian flags. The point I was getting at is thay Jews who oppose Zionism and colonialism are a credit to their people.

            • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              4 months ago

              They don’t have insitutional power in Israel,

              The Ultra-Orthodox parties are literally part of the current ruling coalition dedicated to Palestinian genocide.