Oof I pressed a nerve, okay, let me rephrase. What you said doesn’t make sense because to anyone with half a brain at the time, being gay in the 90s was fucking awful. And that’s not a personal attack, a personal attack would be you sound like either a troll or delusional, and in either case you clearly have a poor grasp on your emotions judging from how defensive you got.
I don’t care if it makes sense to you, and honestly, that doesn’t matter. You came in hot, invalidating my experiences, and the things I have seen with my own eyes, basically calling me a liar. and unless you were there, by my side at that moment, you cannot fucking say that. Because you don’t fucking know.
I think you’re projecting, i came in with a mildly pointed response saying my opinion differed, you immediately became hostile, and judging from the rest of this thread it’s probably due to how much you’ve been arguing with people here about this. Honestly I think you should take a break from this thread, sleep on it, and come back tomorrow
Would you be willing to tell us about it? Why is life so much worse now than the period of stuff like the AIDS crisis, Section 28 and Romer v Evans… Before the widespread recognition and legalization of same sex marriage and the lowered barriers for trans people to change their identification documents that resulted.
I think you have people legitimately confused for your reasons because a lot of that history is painted as essentially a war and mass genocide by inaction primarily of lesbian, gay and bisexual people. While I know of a few of my trans elders have said that there was less individual heat on trans identities as there are now, it still doesn’t seem like on the whole it was a great time. People were still murdered for being trans and a lot of the fight for non-binary trans people were struggling with much deeper form of erasure.
I think people are concerned that what you are putting forward is your personal experience which may be narrower than the full encompassing experience of the entire LGBTQIA which it is assumed the question is being asked about. The birds eye veiw, of all the identities and the culture of the movement from that full ten year span. It’s generally assumed by younger people that most things are better now because at least we aren’t dropping like flies so it’s natural that the reaction to your opinion is disbelief.
*Edit, Removed an example event that was in the eighties.
It always strikes me a strange that mods, like you don’t consider the incessant trolling to be incivil, only the self-defense to be incivil.
How much victim blaming can you stomach before you acknowledge you’re a disgusting hypocrite?
You are a vile piece of fucking shit. And I hope the van you give me as worth it, as you burn in the lake, a fucking fire, you goddamn piece of other diarrhea.
The only incivility is your blaming victims for defending themselves. And for that, your hypocrisy is glaringly, obvious, you massive piece of fucking shit.
My man, did you live in the 90’s? Cause it kinda sounds like you don’t know what you’re talking about
I did. Don’t tell me what I did and didn’t see or live through.
How arrogant and presumptuous of you to think you could presume my entire life experience from a few internet comments.
Oh, and making personal attacks to further your position just highlights how weak your argument is.
Oof I pressed a nerve, okay, let me rephrase. What you said doesn’t make sense because to anyone with half a brain at the time, being gay in the 90s was fucking awful. And that’s not a personal attack, a personal attack would be you sound like either a troll or delusional, and in either case you clearly have a poor grasp on your emotions judging from how defensive you got.
I don’t care if it makes sense to you, and honestly, that doesn’t matter. You came in hot, invalidating my experiences, and the things I have seen with my own eyes, basically calling me a liar. and unless you were there, by my side at that moment, you cannot fucking say that. Because you don’t fucking know.
Check yourself
I think you’re projecting, i came in with a mildly pointed response saying my opinion differed, you immediately became hostile, and judging from the rest of this thread it’s probably due to how much you’ve been arguing with people here about this. Honestly I think you should take a break from this thread, sleep on it, and come back tomorrow
No, you’re just blaming me for your inability to consider another point of view that may in fact be better supported by the evidence than your own.
That’s just called denial. Don’t blame me for your own ability to cope with the reality of the situation. That’s on you.
Would you be willing to tell us about it? Why is life so much worse now than the period of stuff like the AIDS crisis, Section 28 and Romer v Evans… Before the widespread recognition and legalization of same sex marriage and the lowered barriers for trans people to change their identification documents that resulted.
I think you have people legitimately confused for your reasons because a lot of that history is painted as essentially a war and mass genocide by inaction primarily of lesbian, gay and bisexual people. While I know of a few of my trans elders have said that there was less individual heat on trans identities as there are now, it still doesn’t seem like on the whole it was a great time. People were still murdered for being trans and a lot of the fight for non-binary trans people were struggling with much deeper form of erasure.
I think people are concerned that what you are putting forward is your personal experience which may be narrower than the full encompassing experience of the entire LGBTQIA which it is assumed the question is being asked about. The birds eye veiw, of all the identities and the culture of the movement from that full ten year span. It’s generally assumed by younger people that most things are better now because at least we aren’t dropping like flies so it’s natural that the reaction to your opinion is disbelief.
*Edit, Removed an example event that was in the eighties.
Removed by mod
Removed, civility.
It always strikes me a strange that mods, like you don’t consider the incessant trolling to be incivil, only the self-defense to be incivil.
How much victim blaming can you stomach before you acknowledge you’re a disgusting hypocrite?
You are a vile piece of fucking shit. And I hope the van you give me as worth it, as you burn in the lake, a fucking fire, you goddamn piece of other diarrhea.
Ookay… That is a very outsized violent reaction. I think you may have had a bit too much internet for one day.
Removed by mod
Removed, civility.
The only incivility is your blaming victims for defending themselves. And for that, your hypocrisy is glaringly, obvious, you massive piece of fucking shit.
How do you even live with yourself?