Yes, even at the time of your posting Israel claimed they were hitting an underground bunker that just magically happened to be there after IDF cleared the entire territory and declared it a “safe zone” and moved civilians into it. None of your original claim is true nor the fault of anyone but Israel, even if we were to buy Israel’s claim which is dubious to begin with.
I don’t see what you think I got wrong about the story.
You realize the tunnels shafts are usually concealed right? They apparently walk right past them all the time. That’s how tunnel warfare works. There are 500 miles of tunnels inside a 25 mile wide area. It’s really inconcievable to you that there was a tunnel under this camp? That Hamas was literally using the tunnels because it was a humanitarian area, just like they do with every public institution, hospitals and so fourth. This is their strategy, Hamas and their loyal fans.
I don’t find IDF’s claim here dubious at all. It’s a hell of a lot more credible just at face value than you’re giving it credit for, at any rate. Seems obvious I’m talking to someone who only regards Israeli people as evil, attributes everything to malice.
The IDF cleared the area and then chose to designate it as a safe zone. That’s 100% their responsibility if they herded and encouraged civilians there. Israeli intelligence has a pretty detailed map of the tunnels and have been citing them widely. I do not believe they suddenly discovered a tunnel (since they’re not even claiming a tunnel existed, merely that the Hamas people were underground). AND spokesman Daniel Hagari said that Israel only used two 17kg bombs, which isn’t enough to reach or destroy a tunnel.
Seems obvious I’m talking to someone who only regards Israeli people as evil, attributes everything to malice.
Nope, but keep looking for reasons to dismiss everyone you disagree with so nobody can affect your beliefs with new facts or evidence or logical arguments.
This is a lazy comment, and frankly everybody is standing next to everybody else in Gaza from the perspective of 2000 pound bombs. It is a tiny area.
Your capacity to feel empathy for a genocide of people has clearly been broken your beliefs, and you should be ashamed that your beliefs are so poorly constructed that they make you worse off than an ignorant child who knows nothing but is capable of feeling empathy intuitively.
That’s you’re opinion. In fact it is my empathy for the hundreds of millions of people that will suffer for a war between Iran and Israel that is formative to my opinions on this. You actually do not give a fuck, in my view, because you seem content to sentence millions of people to live and die under religious terrorism. It is your opinion that is malformed and shortsighted.
Famine has been “imminent” since November, the reports of widespread famine are not credible. Aid has been flowing thanks to Israel since like week two. Give it a rest.
At any rate it is the leadership of Hamas that has led to any want of food in Gaza, and only through western charity that every person in Gaza didn’t starve to death fifty years ago.
99.3% of Palestinians haven’t died despite your sensational claims. You don’t think you’ve blown this out of proportion a tad? Maybe slightly overly emotional about it? Like what is this mass scale you’re talking about? Mass scale means a small town worth of people? On what planet?
You don’t think you’ve blown this out of proportion a tad? Maybe slightly overly emotional about it?
Unfortunately I haven’t and I feel my complicity growing everyday the machinery of the empire I am within directly enables dropping 2000 pound bombs on innocent, starving people with no access to electricity.
The most sophisticated fighter aircraft in the world built to out maneuver and defeat sophisticated near peer Russian or Chinese air defense networks are being used as glorified dolly carts to wheel out and dump block clearing 2000 US made bombs…
…onto a city and refugee camp. They are being used to bomb hospitals one by one.
A significant number of attacks on healthcare facilities occurred during the Israel-Hamas war. During the first week of the war, there were 94 attacks on health care facilities in Israel and Gaza, killing 29 health care workers and injuring 24.[1] The attacks on healthcare facilities contributed to a severe humanitarian crisis in Gaza.[2] By 30 November, the World Health Organization documented 427 attacks on healthcare in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, resulting in 566 fatalities and 758 injuries.[3] By February 2024, it was reported that “every hospital in Gaza is either damaged, destroyed, or out of service due to lack of fuel.”[4] By April, WHO had verified 906 attacks on healthcare in Gaza, the West Bank, Israel, and Lebanon.[5]
Why the fuck are you assuming destroying Gaza and committing genocide against the Palestines is a requirement for any plan of action?
Your viewpoint expresses perfectly how insufficient and dangerous blind centrism is.
I have brought up the very real and needless slaughter of probably 50,000+ (if not double that when including all the murder from unnecessary starvation) innocent women, children and men and all you want to talk about are some scaryyy tunnels. Israel has some of the most advanced tanks in the world, some of the most advanced jets in the world, and in general has a functioning modern combined arms military…. and you are a worried about…
…some tunnels?
You are a clown, I keep saying this but looking back history will have no other name for fools like you who have a comic degree of callousness for the lives of Palestinians and refuse to see the mass scale genocide of Palestinians right in front of their eyes because it doesn’t fit their narrative of how the world works.
You would have been better served remaining entirely ignorant on this topic and simply extending your empathy to Palestinians from purely a standpoint of the fact that they are human beings and deserve care and empathy.
Instead you learned a bunch of smart concepts and “facts” and loaded them up into your head not realizing they were clearly brain worms that would totally destroy even your basic capacity to feel empathy for other humans.
Yeah, I just do not have more empathy for 35,000 people than I do for 35 million. 35,000 of anything is not mass scale. You are the one that is ignorant in short-sighted, blind by emotional overreaction. It’s cool, do you.
Have they tried not standing next to Hamas commanders to be used as human shields?
Even Israel isn’t claiming that on this one. Try again.
They were at the time I posted this. Has something changed?
Yes, even at the time of your posting Israel claimed they were hitting an underground bunker that just magically happened to be there after IDF cleared the entire territory and declared it a “safe zone” and moved civilians into it. None of your original claim is true nor the fault of anyone but Israel, even if we were to buy Israel’s claim which is dubious to begin with.
I don’t see what you think I got wrong about the story.
You realize the tunnels shafts are usually concealed right? They apparently walk right past them all the time. That’s how tunnel warfare works. There are 500 miles of tunnels inside a 25 mile wide area. It’s really inconcievable to you that there was a tunnel under this camp? That Hamas was literally using the tunnels because it was a humanitarian area, just like they do with every public institution, hospitals and so fourth. This is their strategy, Hamas and their loyal fans.
I don’t find IDF’s claim here dubious at all. It’s a hell of a lot more credible just at face value than you’re giving it credit for, at any rate. Seems obvious I’m talking to someone who only regards Israeli people as evil, attributes everything to malice.
The IDF cleared the area and then chose to designate it as a safe zone. That’s 100% their responsibility if they herded and encouraged civilians there. Israeli intelligence has a pretty detailed map of the tunnels and have been citing them widely. I do not believe they suddenly discovered a tunnel (since they’re not even claiming a tunnel existed, merely that the Hamas people were underground). AND spokesman Daniel Hagari said that Israel only used two 17kg bombs, which isn’t enough to reach or destroy a tunnel.
Nope, but keep looking for reasons to dismiss everyone you disagree with so nobody can affect your beliefs with new facts or evidence or logical arguments.
You seem to be malfunctioning. Your just mindlessly repeating worn out, discredited talking points
This is a lazy comment, and frankly everybody is standing next to everybody else in Gaza from the perspective of 2000 pound bombs. It is a tiny area.
Your capacity to feel empathy for a genocide of people has clearly been broken your beliefs, and you should be ashamed that your beliefs are so poorly constructed that they make you worse off than an ignorant child who knows nothing but is capable of feeling empathy intuitively.
That’s you’re opinion. In fact it is my empathy for the hundreds of millions of people that will suffer for a war between Iran and Israel that is formative to my opinions on this. You actually do not give a fuck, in my view, because you seem content to sentence millions of people to live and die under religious terrorism. It is your opinion that is malformed and shortsighted.
Your words are empty thoughts thrown into the wind.
We all know how disingenuous you are being, the question is do you?
The genocide of Palestinians by Israel must stop NOW, period.
Israel is on a mass scale murdering, starving, bombing and shooting innocent women, children and men in the tens of thousands in Gaza.
Famine has been “imminent” since November, the reports of widespread famine are not credible. Aid has been flowing thanks to Israel since like week two. Give it a rest.
At any rate it is the leadership of Hamas that has led to any want of food in Gaza, and only through western charity that every person in Gaza didn’t starve to death fifty years ago.
99.3% of Palestinians haven’t died despite your sensational claims. You don’t think you’ve blown this out of proportion a tad? Maybe slightly overly emotional about it? Like what is this mass scale you’re talking about? Mass scale means a small town worth of people? On what planet?
Unfortunately I haven’t and I feel my complicity growing everyday the machinery of the empire I am within directly enables dropping 2000 pound bombs on innocent, starving people with no access to electricity.
The most sophisticated fighter aircraft in the world built to out maneuver and defeat sophisticated near peer Russian or Chinese air defense networks are being used as glorified dolly carts to wheel out and dump block clearing 2000 US made bombs…
…onto a city and refugee camp. They are being used to bomb hospitals one by one.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_during_the_Israel–Hamas_war#
Go home you hateful clown.
Okay yes and there are tunnels under those health facilities. How would you destroy the tunnels? Remember, you cannot use gas.
Why the fuck are you assuming destroying Gaza and committing genocide against the Palestines is a requirement for any plan of action?
Your viewpoint expresses perfectly how insufficient and dangerous blind centrism is.
I have brought up the very real and needless slaughter of probably 50,000+ (if not double that when including all the murder from unnecessary starvation) innocent women, children and men and all you want to talk about are some scaryyy tunnels. Israel has some of the most advanced tanks in the world, some of the most advanced jets in the world, and in general has a functioning modern combined arms military…. and you are a worried about…
…some tunnels?
You are a clown, I keep saying this but looking back history will have no other name for fools like you who have a comic degree of callousness for the lives of Palestinians and refuse to see the mass scale genocide of Palestinians right in front of their eyes because it doesn’t fit their narrative of how the world works.
You would have been better served remaining entirely ignorant on this topic and simply extending your empathy to Palestinians from purely a standpoint of the fact that they are human beings and deserve care and empathy.
Instead you learned a bunch of smart concepts and “facts” and loaded them up into your head not realizing they were clearly brain worms that would totally destroy even your basic capacity to feel empathy for other humans.
Shame on you.
Yeah, I just do not have more empathy for 35,000 people than I do for 35 million. 35,000 of anything is not mass scale. You are the one that is ignorant in short-sighted, blind by emotional overreaction. It’s cool, do you.