Not to support communism as a plausible solution, but all “communist” countries were what we call “state capitalist”. Communism is “worker control of the means of production” not “state control of the means of production”. Communism ideologically doesn’t have the “centralised” ownership of everything that you are referring to. But all “Actually Existing Socialist” countries like Soviet Russia, Cuba, China, etc… did have that centralisation.
All I’m saying is that when you see people advocating for leftist, progressive, social democratic, or “communist” ideas none of them are talking about state ownership of all industry.
I think there not being any true communisms despite the attempts supports my point. An Anarcho-Communism fails because it stops being an anarchy the moment one person grabs enough resources and gains enough authority to enforce their will on the rest. An organized democratic communism might work, as I already mentioned in my first comment, but that’s absolutely not what the sort of people in these threads are advocating for. Just scroll through and you’ll see people advocating for destruction of the state entirely, sometimes you’ll even see them mask off and say specifically destruction of western nations.
Not to support communism as a plausible solution, but all “communist” countries were what we call “state capitalist”. Communism is “worker control of the means of production” not “state control of the means of production”. Communism ideologically doesn’t have the “centralised” ownership of everything that you are referring to. But all “Actually Existing Socialist” countries like Soviet Russia, Cuba, China, etc… did have that centralisation.
All I’m saying is that when you see people advocating for leftist, progressive, social democratic, or “communist” ideas none of them are talking about state ownership of all industry.
I think there not being any true communisms despite the attempts supports my point. An Anarcho-Communism fails because it stops being an anarchy the moment one person grabs enough resources and gains enough authority to enforce their will on the rest. An organized democratic communism might work, as I already mentioned in my first comment, but that’s absolutely not what the sort of people in these threads are advocating for. Just scroll through and you’ll see people advocating for destruction of the state entirely, sometimes you’ll even see them mask off and say specifically destruction of western nations.