I live in the country and my next door neighbor has two trucks that he alternates commuting 40 minutes into the city for a job that doesn’t require a truck. Never see them used for anything else. That just oozes smart to me.
Prolly cuz I’m not stupid enough to drive my car off-road if it ain’t capable of handling the terrain.
I have taken appropriately lifted vehicles off-road many times, though, and many of them weren’t big ass lifted trucks because that’s rarely what’s actually needed. Oh, and even if you do need said lift, a truck ain’t even the best vehicle for that purpose.
But go on, keep pretending the .01% of truck owners actually travelling through 4ft of mud to get to and from their farm are the normal use case for trucks.
You’ll notice almost immediately that there are many 4x4 vehicles with ground clearance that aren’t also gigantic trucks that will go unused for their main intended purpose.
Nobody is “insecure” about owning a truck, because normal people just use their vehicle as they see fit. They aren’t worried about what some basement dweller thinks of their vehicle use lol
Homie I can see you and at least one other person whining in every thread possible about how your use case is valid
They aren’t worried about what some basement dweller thinks
Nice ad hominem, bud, really shows you’re not defensive. How about the opinion of someone on land with livestock, yet doesn’t feel the need to own a truck? Isn’t that, like, the exact person you guys claim needs one so desperately after all?
I’m really confused as to why you think people need to justify owning a truck. Do I, or anyone, owe you or anyone else an explanation on why we have a certain type of vehicle?
My use case is valid, simply because I deem it so.
Others use cases are valid, simply because they deem it so.
I live in the sticks too and most of my neighbours have trucks. Know why? Because they need them. I don’t look at a truck sitting in a driveway and sit in a bubble of self righteousness thinking how dumb they are for owning a truck. I let them own a truck, assume they need it, think nothing of it, and move on with my life, because it doesn’t affect me.
But why do they need them? Because usually they don’t actually, they just think they do. I also live out in the sticks, I’m two hours away from the nearest actual real town. But I’m literally driving a smart Fortwo, with its short wheelbase I don’t have to worry about ever getting high centered on anything it dirt drives real good with the lift springs and the quatrac tires, when i need 2x4s or plywood I’ve got a scion XB with a roof rack i can shove pretty much however many i want up there and strap em down. Decent pulling with a hitch as well. Had To lift kit it up a bit as well but not too bad.
If you just like having a truck that’s fine, I’m just tired of people saying they NEEED them because it’s almost always false. Now, if you live in swamp land, have no road, and need mud tires (no not AT tires, MT tires) and 4-wheel then sure. But most people don’t even in the sticks.
Hell even in snow, dedicated winter tires keep the xb/smart going strong in all but the absolute worst conditions that you probably shouldn’t be in even with 4x drive
I live and work on the road. I travel from wind farm to wind farm, hauling nearly everything I own in a camper behind me. I need a truck. My job and no kids goes a long way to offset my carbon footprint. Honestly though, never really wanted it.
5th wheel i assume, at which point ye you need a truck. If it’s not a 5th tho you don’t need a truck to haul it many an suv could pull it. Technically you can get a 5th wheel dolly too but i don’t trust those things
Because they’re farmers. They move hay and other shit around their property. In any case, it’s not my business what they have or why they’re using it, and I certainly don’t judge them or think there needs to be some ridiculous justification as to why they have it.
Weird, i know several farmers and they usually greatly prefer tractors for that. But to each their own. And like i said if someone just wants a truck or just likes a truck that’s fine, enjoy the truck. But if they are gonna be tell me they need the truck I’ll challenge that, because usually they don’t. They just like/want it. Which again is fine, just be honest about it.
“Everyone’s use case is perfectly identical and can be addressed by high-density urban living and public transportation” seems to be a common one as well.
I thought I was the only one. That community is dumb as hell and is probably doing more harm to the bike movement than it does good for the anti-car movement. This is coming from a cyclist who would love to see more bike centric infrastructure.
I would absolutely kill for better bike infrastructure in my area as well. Thankfully, we have a pretty progressive local council that is pushing for more bike infrastructure, but it’s a long process, and as of now, pretty dangerous to be riding a bike next to a main road.
Oh boy another fun Lemmy thread where every commenter says the same thing about vehicles
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Whichever one permits me to have the tiniest dick
Ya these threads might as well be AI generated
small dick body shaming comments
trucks need to fit a full size plywood comments
something about only people in construction should be allowed trucks comments
I already blocked fuckcars to avoid this brainless discussion
I live in the country and my next door neighbor has two trucks that he alternates commuting 40 minutes into the city for a job that doesn’t require a truck. Never see them used for anything else. That just oozes smart to me.
Where I live on Vancouver Island you need a 4x4 and a truck makes the most sense because 4runners are too expensive
Also because it literally never stops raining it’s useful to have a place to put wet things outside of the cab
This is the kind of nuance Lemmy isn’t prepared for. You either hate trucks, or fuck you
Because those are the literal only two types of 4x4 in existence, right? Smaller cars don’t ever have 4x4 capability
Plastic liner or bin in the trunk. Bonus that it won’t keep getting more wet
I love seeing people insecure as fuck because hey actually know deep down they don’t need the truck, so they come up with “reasons” they need it
Spoken like someone who’s never had a car buried up to the rocker panels in mud or snow and needed extra ground clearance to get out.
Prolly cuz I’m not stupid enough to drive my car off-road if it ain’t capable of handling the terrain.
I have taken appropriately lifted vehicles off-road many times, though, and many of them weren’t big ass lifted trucks because that’s rarely what’s actually needed. Oh, and even if you do need said lift, a truck ain’t even the best vehicle for that purpose.
But go on, keep pretending the .01% of truck owners actually travelling through 4ft of mud to get to and from their farm are the normal use case for trucks.
Dude there isn’t even a paved road leading to my town, everything is off road, go touch grass lmao
Show me on the doll where the big truck touched you
We need ground clearance too lol
Also awd isn’t 4x4
Also if you put wet things inside the cab and turn on the heater you are going to have a condensation nightmare
Maybe stay in your own lane gamer dude
And there are vehicles other than trucks or 4-runnerd that have that.
Never said AWD, I said 4x4
Never said put it in the cabin, I said put it in the trunk
I’d love to, but these oversized pavement princesses are forcing me to dodge around them because they can’t control a big, heavy vehicle.
Which small vehicles are 4x4
Before you play the goalposts game: I said smaller, not small, though some listed would probably count as small:
New vehicles
And since price was the initial complaint: [used](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=used+small+4x4, though if that gives you too many trucks
You’ll notice almost immediately that there are many 4x4 vehicles with ground clearance that aren’t also gigantic trucks that will go unused for their main intended purpose.
Uh oh, found the terminally online guy.
Nobody is “insecure” about owning a truck, because normal people just use their vehicle as they see fit. They aren’t worried about what some basement dweller thinks of their vehicle use lol
Peak brain dead take of the whole thread ⭐
Homie I can see you and at least one other person whining in every thread possible about how your use case is valid
Nice ad hominem, bud, really shows you’re not defensive. How about the opinion of someone on land with livestock, yet doesn’t feel the need to own a truck? Isn’t that, like, the exact person you guys claim needs one so desperately after all?
I’m really confused as to why you think people need to justify owning a truck. Do I, or anyone, owe you or anyone else an explanation on why we have a certain type of vehicle?
My use case is valid, simply because I deem it so.
Others use cases are valid, simply because they deem it so.
It’s really that simple.
I live in the sticks too and most of my neighbours have trucks. Know why? Because they need them. I don’t look at a truck sitting in a driveway and sit in a bubble of self righteousness thinking how dumb they are for owning a truck. I let them own a truck, assume they need it, think nothing of it, and move on with my life, because it doesn’t affect me.
But why do they need them? Because usually they don’t actually, they just think they do. I also live out in the sticks, I’m two hours away from the nearest actual real town. But I’m literally driving a smart Fortwo, with its short wheelbase I don’t have to worry about ever getting high centered on anything it dirt drives real good with the lift springs and the quatrac tires, when i need 2x4s or plywood I’ve got a scion XB with a roof rack i can shove pretty much however many i want up there and strap em down. Decent pulling with a hitch as well. Had To lift kit it up a bit as well but not too bad.
If you just like having a truck that’s fine, I’m just tired of people saying they NEEED them because it’s almost always false. Now, if you live in swamp land, have no road, and need mud tires (no not AT tires, MT tires) and 4-wheel then sure. But most people don’t even in the sticks.
Hell even in snow, dedicated winter tires keep the xb/smart going strong in all but the absolute worst conditions that you probably shouldn’t be in even with 4x drive
I live and work on the road. I travel from wind farm to wind farm, hauling nearly everything I own in a camper behind me. I need a truck. My job and no kids goes a long way to offset my carbon footprint. Honestly though, never really wanted it.
5th wheel i assume, at which point ye you need a truck. If it’s not a 5th tho you don’t need a truck to haul it many an suv could pull it. Technically you can get a 5th wheel dolly too but i don’t trust those things
Because they’re farmers. They move hay and other shit around their property. In any case, it’s not my business what they have or why they’re using it, and I certainly don’t judge them or think there needs to be some ridiculous justification as to why they have it.
Weird, i know several farmers and they usually greatly prefer tractors for that. But to each their own. And like i said if someone just wants a truck or just likes a truck that’s fine, enjoy the truck. But if they are gonna be tell me they need the truck I’ll challenge that, because usually they don’t. They just like/want it. Which again is fine, just be honest about it.
Same, I just assume they want it instead.
“Everyone’s use case is perfectly identical and can be addressed by high-density urban living and public transportation” seems to be a common one as well.
Lots of idealists, not many realists.
Fuck cars was the first thing I banned coming to this site. I swear that whole community is just brain dead people who are terminally online.
I thought I was the only one. That community is dumb as hell and is probably doing more harm to the bike movement than it does good for the anti-car movement. This is coming from a cyclist who would love to see more bike centric infrastructure.
Agree. Fuck cars ≠ pro bike.
I would absolutely kill for better bike infrastructure in my area as well. Thankfully, we have a pretty progressive local council that is pushing for more bike infrastructure, but it’s a long process, and as of now, pretty dangerous to be riding a bike next to a main road.
Stay safe out there friend.