I’m not sure if you’re conflating Biden with the totality of human civilization here, or just not understanding what protecting public land means in the context of US government action.
No no, I get that US corporations ask for public land for privatized gains all the time, and keep increasing how much they ask for when they get it. The number of requests keeps going up, so the number of refusals going up isn’t shocking.
Did you realize that almost 11 million acres of the 12.8 million of ‘conservation’ were simply rollbacks from the Trump era to the Obama era? He had 2 years to so that, but waited until 2023. Edit:Source
My point is that it’s a single metric and out of context does not actually tell you why they were threatened to begin with. I.E. maintaining the status quo does not warrant a medal. Still voting for him.
Did you realize that almost 11 million acres of the 12.8 million were simply rollbacks from the Trump era to the Obama era? He had 2 years to so that, but waited until 2023. Edit:Source
It wasn’t a matter of ‘waiting’, as the link in your source, notes…
In the Arctic Refuge, Secretary of the Interior Deb Haaland has authorized the cancellation of the remaining seven oil and gas leases issued by the previous administration in the Coastal Plain. The leases were suspended in June 2021 following the issuance of Secretary’s Order (S.O.) 3401, which identified “multiple legal deficiencies in the underlying record supporting the leases.”
2023 was finalization, not a last-minute “Oh, NOW I’m going to protect things”.
Sorry, would you prefer “Biden is on-track to unfuck more land given away by a corrupt corporate crony than any modern first-term president in history”?
I didn’t realize that you can only claim credit for something if no one before you had ever done anything to fuck it up in the first place.
Thanks for admitting you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, though, and were just grasping at straws with that “Well, he didn’t do it until 2023!” bit.
Sorry, I just realized - that quote you gave, claiming was in my sourced link… isn’t. I just re-read it and did multiple searches. After googling your quote, I found it on a separate doi.gov article. So, thanks for mocking me for something you didn’t check. You also highlighted that he had from 2021 as well, so I don’t even know why you’re using that as an argument. He still had 2 years.
But you’re right. When I saw that like 85% of the argument of this claim is for hitting ‘undo’, I assumed that the 2023 date was due to political delay for posterity, not political delay per the status quo. My bad.
But the largest land conservation move this year was the administration’s return to President Barack Obama’s National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska (NPR-A) Integrated Activity Plan for the Western Arctic, which closed nearly 11 million acres to oil and gas leasing. While this was not a new protection under Biden, it restored protections that were removed under the Trump administration.
Thanks for not checking your own attempt at a ‘gotcha’.
You also highlighted that he had from 2021 as well, so I don’t even know why you’re using that as an argument. He still had 2 years.
… Jesus Christ. I legitimately can’t tell if you’re being serious right now.
In the Arctic Refuge, Secretary of the Interior Deb Haaland has authorized the cancellation of the remaining seven oil and gas leases issued by the previous administration in the Coastal Plain. The leases were suspended in June 2021 following the issuance of Secretary’s Order (S.O.) 3401, which identified “multiple legal deficiencies in the underlying record supporting the leases.”
THIS ONE wasn’t.
Edit: OK, I see what you’re saying now, but you removed the OTHER hyperlink from that quote to make it readable, and there are no less that 40 links in this article. My apologies for not clicking through each and every linked article before responding. Jesus.
You’re “balancing disparate interests” include almost exclusively corporations and almost completely ignore the fucked legacy being left behind by Biden (whose been a leader in politics longer than I’ve been alive and definitely deserves some ire here,) and politicians like him.
The willow project is a text book example of him breaking his word and supporting oil companies (who didn’t even ask for it to be picked back up,) in favor of literally supporting our collective grandkids ability simply fucking exist in a comfortable world.
Some Alaska Natives are critical of the drilling ban across such a significant swath of the NPR-A. It has proved controversial with Alaska’s bipartisan congressional delegation, as well as Alaska Native groups who say they depend on the tax revenue from oil drilling to fund schools and basic services.
The final rule “does not reflect our communities’ wishes,” said Voice of the Arctic Iñupiat President Nagruk Harcharek, adding the move “will hurt the very residents the federal government purports to help by rolling back years of progress, impoverishing our communities, and imperiling our Iñupiaq culture.”
The ban will also open the president to attacks from Republicans that he is failing to prioritize American energy independence and is driving up the price of gasoline. But under Biden’s tenure, the US is producing more oil than any country in history, CNN Business reported, and gas prices are down $1.35 from their all-time high in June 2022.
In addition to protecting a vast amount of the NPR-A on Friday, the Biden administration moved to block the Trump administration-approved Ambler road in the Alaskan wilderness. If built, the road would serve as the access point for a proposed copper mine. The administration signaled it wanted to take “no action” on the mine, effectively blocking the road’s access to federal land.
In a statement, Ambler Metals, the company seeking to mine copper in the region, said it was “deeply disappointed” in Interior’s decision. Ambler’s managing director Kaleb Froehlich said the move would deprive local communities of jobs and tax revenue and prevent the US “from developing a domestic supply of minerals that are critical for clean energy technology and national security.”
The Alaska announcements cap off a week that saw a flurry of actions from Biden’s Interior Department. On Thursday, the department announced a new rule that elevated conservation to put it on equal footing as other public land uses like grazing, mining and other energy development. The new conservation rule covers 245 million acres largely in the Western United States – about a tenth of the land in the nation.
But sure, it’s just all the big bad corpos, they’re all on one side, and the people are on another. Anyone who does anything that helps the corpos is just their slave. Politics is delightfully simple, it would seem.
Gee, wouldn’t be awesome if we could just, you know, fund schools?
naw. That’s too easy. and too “socialist” even though it’s probably less expensive than, you know, all the damage that will be caused… this year… by massive fires, extremely intense storms or other things affecting climate change.
Edit: side note, how much do you think corporations spent to make sure their tax revenue was funding people’s public schools? how much do you think they spent to let people know that?
Gee, wouldn’t be awesome if we could just, you know, fund schools?
Goodness, why didn’t Biden think of that? With a stroke of his pen, he could have solved all of these issues! Raised taxes, changed state laws for funding schools, and united all the necessary Federal apparatuses to change with it, and everyone would have cheered and toasted his name! Goodness, I’m so glad that’s how our government works! One man, once elected, can lawfully remake the nation as he sees fit, no other elected officials or separation of powers or bureaucratic processes involved!
naw. That’s too easy. and too “socialist” even though it’s probably less expensive than, you know, all the damage that will be caused… this year… by massive fires, extremely intense storms or other things affected by (and affecting) climate change.
Yes, it’s fucking ridiculous. That’s not the same as saying “Man who isn’t High Supreme Dictator For Life hasn’t done it because he’s in the pocket of THE CORPOS”
People have interests, and those interests are often tied up in institutions and processes that are not able to be changed by one official, not even the highest official in the fucking land. Sorry that the process of government isn’t quick and easy, and unfucking it is a massive undertaking that takes longer than a lunch break.
Nationwide, around 10% of funding for schools is public. In Alaska it was 7% in 2020. You’re right in saying it would take an act of congress. Biden loves taking credit for acts of congress, though. so he can take credit for that, too. Further, he was a senator for longer than I’ve been alive. His leadership in the DNC has shaped the nation and is a large, if not-exclusive, part of how we got into this mess.
but do go ahead, insist it’s NoT BiDeN’s FaUlT when a) he has a very long track record that is a significant part of the problem and b) while he can’t act unilaterally, he largely hasn’t acted in any meaningful way.
Literally the only justification for voting for Biden is that trump is worse. that’s not an argument for Biden… and after a certain point you have to wonder if maybe that’s the reason he didn’t pressure his DoJ to hurry the fuck up with trump indictments… you know… for fucking espionage… or even the entire reason Trump is allowed to be a political candidate at all.
But sure the guy whose done nothing for decades… he’s gonna save us with some parks.
Biden loves taking credit for acts of congress, though. so he can take credit for that, too.
Oh, okay, yes, that’s the problem, Biden just didn’t realize he could take credit for something that Congress did. Good thing Congress would definitely be onboard with it, included a supermajority in the Senate.
and after a certain point you have to wonder if maybe that’s the reason he didn’t pressure his DoJ to hurry the fuck up with trump indictments… you know… for fucking espionage… or even the entire reason Trump is allowed to be a political candidate at all.
Jesus fucking Christ.
And you wonder why this whole line of thinking is seen as deeply unserious.
“I’m a big greedy oil company and I want 10% of your public land.”
“Ok. Here you go!”
Meme: Biden gives oil company everything they want!
That would look bad, so instead we get:
“I’m a big greedy oil company and I want ALL of your public land.”
“What!? No. You can only have 10%.”
Meme: Biden saves 90% of public land!
But in this case it’s closer to:
“I’m a big greedy oil company and I want ALL of your public land.”
Trump: “I’ll see what we can do.”
~4 years later~
Biden: “Hey, can we cancel that?”
Meme: Biden set to be greatest conservationist president in history, possibly time itself
You can skew stories dramatically when you focus on one detail.
k- was there another first-term president that you think actually deserves more credit or you just got this triggered because someone said a positive sounding thing about Biden?
Do you think “the amount of conserved land for first-term presidents” is a metric ANY of us thought or cared about before this meme? What’s the point of it?
I was definitely triggered on how many qualifiers were needed for a single point of data to be extracted for comparison.
*over
*Public lands
*in 2023
“Protected more” is a meaningless metric. The threat of destruction is not eliminated with a one-time response, but they’re acting like it is.
I could get the same results by saying “I hereby threaten the entire planet with destruction unless I get a soda in the next few minutes.”
“Oh, I got one? I guess that means I saved the planet.”
I’m not sure if you’re conflating Biden with the totality of human civilization here, or just not understanding what protecting public land means in the context of US government action.
No no, I get that US corporations ask for public land for privatized gains all the time, and keep increasing how much they ask for when they get it. The number of requests keeps going up, so the number of refusals going up isn’t shocking.
Did you realize that almost 11 million acres of the 12.8 million of ‘conservation’ were simply rollbacks from the Trump era to the Obama era? He had 2 years to so that, but waited until 2023. Edit:Source
My point is that it’s a single metric and out of context does not actually tell you why they were threatened to begin with. I.E. maintaining the status quo does not warrant a medal. Still voting for him.
You could save a ton of typing if you just said you don’t like it that Biden refused the corporate land grabs.
Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face or whatever they say 😎
My nose was cut off, and this meme is acting like stapling it back on deserves a medal.
God, I hate to see how you interact with your doctors.
It wasn’t a matter of ‘waiting’, as the link in your source, notes…
2023 was finalization, not a last-minute “Oh, NOW I’m going to protect things”.
Governments have intentionally slow processes.
Cool. So it was the status quo, and just hitting ‘undo’. Why the meme portraying that as the greatest conservation act in history? It’s disingenuous.
Sorry, would you prefer “Biden is on-track to unfuck more land given away by a corrupt corporate crony than any modern first-term president in history”?
I didn’t realize that you can only claim credit for something if no one before you had ever done anything to fuck it up in the first place.
Thanks for admitting you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, though, and were just grasping at straws with that “Well, he didn’t do it until 2023!” bit.
Sorry, I just realized - that quote you gave, claiming was in my sourced link… isn’t. I just re-read it and did multiple searches. After googling your quote, I found it on a separate doi.gov article. So, thanks for mocking me for something you didn’t check. You also highlighted that he had from 2021 as well, so I don’t even know why you’re using that as an argument. He still had 2 years.
But you’re right. When I saw that like 85% of the argument of this claim is for hitting ‘undo’, I assumed that the 2023 date was due to political delay for posterity, not political delay per the status quo. My bad.
Thanks for not checking your own attempt at a ‘gotcha’.
… Jesus Christ. I legitimately can’t tell if you’re being serious right now.
Dude, THAT quote is in my link. Yeah.
THIS ONE wasn’t.
Edit: OK, I see what you’re saying now, but you removed the OTHER hyperlink from that quote to make it readable, and there are no less that 40 links in this article. My apologies for not clicking through each and every linked article before responding. Jesus.
<cough> willow project. <cough>
Trusting Biden on climate…. Is a two edged sword that cuts you twice. Like those cheap razors with extra blades…
It’s almost like everything the president does involves balancing disparate interests and expenditure of political capital
Gee it’s almost like he didn’t break a major campaign promise months after reaching the whitehouse to do it
Gee it’s also like climate change isn’t an existential threat to society.
You’re “balancing disparate interests” include almost exclusively corporations and almost completely ignore the fucked legacy being left behind by Biden (whose been a leader in politics longer than I’ve been alive and definitely deserves some ire here,) and politicians like him.
The willow project is a text book example of him breaking his word and supporting oil companies (who didn’t even ask for it to be picked back up,) in favor of literally supporting our collective grandkids ability simply fucking exist in a comfortable world.
From the very fucking source I posted:
But sure, it’s just all the big bad corpos, they’re all on one side, and the people are on another. Anyone who does anything that helps the corpos is just their slave. Politics is delightfully simple, it would seem.
Gee, wouldn’t be awesome if we could just, you know, fund schools?
naw. That’s too easy. and too “socialist” even though it’s probably less expensive than, you know, all the damage that will be caused… this year… by massive fires, extremely intense storms or other things affecting climate change.
Edit: side note, how much do you think corporations spent to make sure their tax revenue was funding people’s public schools? how much do you think they spent to let people know that?
Goodness, why didn’t Biden think of that? With a stroke of his pen, he could have solved all of these issues! Raised taxes, changed state laws for funding schools, and united all the necessary Federal apparatuses to change with it, and everyone would have cheered and toasted his name! Goodness, I’m so glad that’s how our government works! One man, once elected, can lawfully remake the nation as he sees fit, no other elected officials or separation of powers or bureaucratic processes involved!
Yes, it’s fucking ridiculous. That’s not the same as saying “Man who isn’t High Supreme Dictator For Life hasn’t done it because he’s in the pocket of THE CORPOS”
People have interests, and those interests are often tied up in institutions and processes that are not able to be changed by one official, not even the highest official in the fucking land. Sorry that the process of government isn’t quick and easy, and unfucking it is a massive undertaking that takes longer than a lunch break.
Nationwide, around 10% of funding for schools is public. In Alaska it was 7% in 2020. You’re right in saying it would take an act of congress. Biden loves taking credit for acts of congress, though. so he can take credit for that, too. Further, he was a senator for longer than I’ve been alive. His leadership in the DNC has shaped the nation and is a large, if not-exclusive, part of how we got into this mess.
but do go ahead, insist it’s NoT BiDeN’s FaUlT when a) he has a very long track record that is a significant part of the problem and b) while he can’t act unilaterally, he largely hasn’t acted in any meaningful way.
Literally the only justification for voting for Biden is that trump is worse. that’s not an argument for Biden… and after a certain point you have to wonder if maybe that’s the reason he didn’t pressure his DoJ to hurry the fuck up with trump indictments… you know… for fucking espionage… or even the entire reason Trump is allowed to be a political candidate at all.
But sure the guy whose done nothing for decades… he’s gonna save us with some parks.
Oh, okay, yes, that’s the problem, Biden just didn’t realize he could take credit for something that Congress did. Good thing Congress would definitely be onboard with it, included a supermajority in the Senate.
Jesus fucking Christ.
And you wonder why this whole line of thinking is seen as deeply unserious.
Except Biden actually could protect a lot less. Your planetary threat is just a delusion.
Sorry, let me try again:
“I’m a big greedy oil company and I want 10% of your public land.” “Ok. Here you go!” Meme: Biden gives oil company everything they want!
That would look bad, so instead we get:
“I’m a big greedy oil company and I want ALL of your public land.” “What!? No. You can only have 10%.” Meme: Biden saves 90% of public land!
But in this case it’s closer to:
“I’m a big greedy oil company and I want ALL of your public land.” Trump: “I’ll see what we can do.” ~4 years later~ Biden: “Hey, can we cancel that?” Meme: Biden set to be greatest conservationist president in history, possibly time itself
You can skew stories dramatically when you focus on one detail.
k- was there another first-term president that you think actually deserves more credit or you just got this triggered because someone said a positive sounding thing about Biden?
Do you think “the amount of conserved land for first-term presidents” is a metric ANY of us thought or cared about before this meme? What’s the point of it?
I was definitely triggered on how many qualifiers were needed for a single point of data to be extracted for comparison. *over *Public lands *in 2023
*On track to *more ____ than *modern *first-term
Apparently to trigger people that get triggered when they see a positive sounding statement about Biden. Fun to see how well that works ;)