On the issue of Gaza, Biden is dramatically out of touch with the voters he needs to win re-election. If he will not be moved by morality to stop his support of this war, he should be moved by vulgar self-interest. Gaza is not a distant foreign conflict: it is an urgent moral emergency for large swaths of voters. Biden will lose those voters – and may indeed lose the election – if he does not cease his support of these atrocities.

Biden has that rare opportunity in politics: to help the country, and himself, by doing the right thing. But he must do so now. Both the Palestinian people and his own election prospects are running out of time.

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    Anyone not voting for Biden because of Gaza is a fucking idiot. Trump will be 10x worse for Palestinians. Remember who moved the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. That was designed as a provocation.

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        so you are pro trump and the what he will do to Palestine, got it. Third part will never be elected to the office of president until there is third party support in all other levels and branches of the government. This is by design of how our elections work. You get 2 choices, if you vote for a third option you are in fact voting for your least favorite option. I am saying this as someone who was a 3rd party voter up until 2016 and voted for that bitch Jill Stein who turned out to be a russian shill.

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          The most brain dead reply I’ve read today. Not sure why this math is hard to understand for people but if someone votes 3rd party trump does not get an additional vote, so no it’s not the same as supporting trump.

          If Biden wants to earn their vote then maybe he should not fund and supply a genocide then?

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            If the only credible path you get to choose is 30 something thousand civilian casualties, or complete annihilation of those civilians, not choosing the prevention of complete annihilation places a moral fault on you.

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              That really only applies if your vote can change the election which isn’t going to happen outside of the maybe 4 swing states.

              With your same logic if your voting for Biden in one of the states he’s guaranteed to win or lose then your morally supporting a genocide for no actual change.

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      Anyone not voting for Biden because of Gaza is a fucking idiot.

      The democracts insist on maintaining this position despite the mountain of evidence that it’s driving down turn out in their base, and does not represent the wishes of the electorate.

      Why is it that voters have to swallow genocide, and not that democrats have to stop perpetuating electorally unpopular genocide?

      Of course trump will be worse and i’ll be holding my nose and voting for biden but it makes no sense to blame voters for the inevitable and foreseeable consequences of the imperial cowardice of the democratic party.

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        Genocide is going to continue either way, we can either deal with the guy asking for a cease fire and who built a pier to get around Israel or vote for the guy that will send our troops to participate.

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          Being angry at voters and calling them idiots over choices the democratic party made doesn’t help defeat trump.

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    Doubt. Eventually people will realize that for as bad as Biden is with regards to Gaza, he’s doing a lot right domestically, and the other guy would be much, much, MUCH worse

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      The way voters protest this sort of issue doesn’t follow logic or reason. People will happily not vote in protest, even if it means somebody far worse will win because of their actions. Cutting off their nose to spite their face.

      I think the news needs to shame these kind of voters, instead of pushing this narrative that it’s Biden’s fault. Biden’s views are his own, and yeah, the news should try to highlight and change them. But, voter patterns of using “uncontested” or third-party candidates to sabotage the main electees is actively destroying Democrats’ chances of winning elections.

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      Personally, I really, really, really wish we had a viable third party candidate. I don’t want either of these fucks in office.

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    The SJWs that refuse to vote every election year because of single issue nonsense are already counted out with regards to polling and forecasts as I understand.

    This is why their votes actually can count. Because any vote from them will help tip the balance in favor of democracy over dictatorship-

    but should they all make good on their threats to pout and stay home-

    It’s just going to be status quo.

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      Dismiss the ‘sjws’ sure, but it’s literally impossible for democrats to win the presidency unless black voters are enthusiastic about the candidate. Biden’s Gaza stance hurts him with black voters.

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        I honestly don’t think so. Again, single-issue non-voters are already not counted in the demographics- as I understand. I could be wrong, but I think this has always been a thing. This is why most polls aren’t accurate- because they don’t account for this. The remaining numbers are a result of who is expected to vote.

        This doesn’t mean that the gEnOciDe jOe kids can’t help America from falling into absolute chaos, and Palestine from becoming a golf course…

        But it’s already assumed they won’t. Again, they’re part of status quo and they don’t even realize it.