• TigrisMorte@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    Not Voting is a Vote, just as not choosing is a choice. It is simply a Vote for the worse option based upon your judgment. You remain 100% responsible for enabling what happens simply because you didn’t do what you could to prevent it.

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      6 months ago

      “In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard’s vote.”

      David Foster Wallace, Consider the Lobster and Other Essays

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      6 months ago

      it’s not really a vote for the worse option, it’s a vote saying “i don’t know what’s best or don’t care, so i’ll take whatever happens”

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        The entire concept of Voting boycott is idiotic. The premise being, “less of a problem gets me noticed!”, astoundingly resulted in the protest Voter being ignored.

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          if all the people that don’t vote, voted third party: they’d win…

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            nope. Still lower numbers than the two established parties. However, what it would do is get the numbers high enough that the various monied and political interests involved paid attention to what those folks were thinking. Unlike the non-Voter whom everyone ignores as they don’t Vote.

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            Your argument relies on hordes of people suddenly, magically changing their behavior in a cohesive and coordinated way. Have fun with that.

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        Which ends up being an acceptance of the worst option, because the boomers who vote for Trump always vote every election.

        It’s a trolley problem. The trolley is flying down the tracks. The boomers are itching to vote for Trump.

        Standing by and doing nothing makes you complicit.

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      6 months ago

      Not Voting is a Vote

      No it isn’t, fuck that doublespeech. That’s like saying to the woman in op’s example ‘If you don’t choose between Niceguy and Chad and then one of them comes and rapes you it’s your fault for not choosing the other to protect you when you got the chance’.

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        That analogy was flawed from the start and doesn’t apply to anything. Stop using it, and stop even thinking about it.

        With the current election, there are two choices, and only two choices. That is the reality you have to work with. We know that x number of Republican voters are going to turn out no matter what. So by not voting, you aren’t making any kind of moral stand. You are just deciding to let the greater of two evils win.

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        And the reason OP’s analogy falls apart is choosing nobody or someone else is actually valid when you are deciding who to date. But there is going to be a president, it is going to be one of those two people, and not voting/voting third party in 2024 does not change that.

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        100% does. You have voted to let the majority of those remaining to decide for you. That you did so is actually logged if you are eligible, IE registered. Sorry sunshine, reality happens no matter how hard you hold your breath and stamp your feet.