He’s an authoritarian nut job that is destroying this country and ignoring the Constitution. He’s emboldened the racists to be more open and violent. Unless you are a billionaire, he will eventually get around to destroying everything you hold dear as well. Don’t think you are special.
I think tariffs ARE a solution to manufacturing being exported. Your hatred for Trump is clouding your opinion of the economics of jobs. And I imagine a lot of billionaires are less than happy with the revenue loss they are about to have with trade being down. I really doubt Trump is coming for ‘everything I hold dear’. I think this country was already broken well before he was in office, so you really can’t blame him for that. Whether you think DEI policies are racist is subjective- making race part of any decision making process for jobs or education is racist in my opinion. Nobody is special. I don’t think he has ‘emboldened the racists’. If your local police force isn’t addressing violence why don’t you blame them?
The Democrats were using the right means to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US, forcing the government to get contracts from US factories. Tariffs are just dumb.
Tariffs are a way to bring manufacturing back into the country, but why have blanket tariffs instead of targeting specific sectors to incentivize bringing back manufacturing in those sectors?
And tariffs are not the only way to bring manufacturing back, government can subsidize bringing manufacturing back. Biden did that with the CHIPS act, where are Trump equivalent of the CHIPS act?
Furthermore, if the plan is to bring manufacturing home why is Trump trying to kill the CHIPS act?
And why is he gutting education when it’s obvious to anyone that manufacturing requires skilled labor?
He’s doing only one thing (and he’s doing that very poorly) that is supposed to bring manufacturing back and everything else he does more or less works against bringing manufacturing back. You have to have blinders on to really believe he’s trying to bring manufacturing back to America.
Exactly. Biden was bringing a lot of manufacturing into Ohio through the chips and infrastructure acts. Manufacturing with good mixes in skill of labor.
We aren’t competitive in stuff like steel or high volume low cost manufacturing. What we are able to compete on is high skill and high tech manufacturing. Things like chips, manufacturing equipment, and vehicles. Our labor is disproportionately skilled and our costs of living and land are significantly higher than in many countries. I would also love a focus on domestic production of green technologies like batteries, wind turbines, solar panels, and trains and rail equipment. There’s a reason China focused on such things.
I’m pro manufacturing, it’s my career. But tariffing everyone and everything doesn’t improve manufacturing. Targeted combinations of tariffs and subsidies do.
Additionally it needs to be said that when Trump does target, he focuses on outdated things, namely coal.
Your hatred for Trump is clouding your opinion of the economics of jobs.
Wow, a real life mind reader. What’s it like to be inside someone’s head and tell them how their mind works? Pretty cool.
I think this country was already broken well before he was in office, so you really can’t blame him for that.
You had me in the first half, but then lmfao really? Yes this country has been on a decline for a while, steep one at that. But his actions are the equivalent of ripping out the ventilator and kicking the patient down a flight of stairs.
I don’t think he has ‘emboldened the racists’.
This is how we know you are one. Multiple of his cabinet picks have clear ties to white supremacy orgs, and he loves to rain down punishment on anyone who fights for people to be treated equally.
I didn’t write this to convince you of anything. That hope is dead for people like you. There is no hope of instilling empathy in any real trump supporter at this point, I truly believe that. I wrote this for anyone who reads this conversation.
My brother in [entity], his admin has scrubbed a lot of non-white history from its website and has discredited the former secretary of Defense as a DEI hire. He was a three star general. Compare that to Hegseth.
Capitalism is carrot-motivated, NOT stick. You want companies to manufacture in the US? Provide incentives to do so, not threats if they don’t.
You said earlier it will take longer than 1 term to build out. You’re 100% correct. So why did Trump full send the tariffs right away? I agree that we need more manufacturing in this country but it’s a 10-20 year goal…which is why you slowly increase the tariffs to allow companies time to build out while also not fucking over your citizens.
making race part of any decision making process for jobs or education is racist in my opinion. Nobody is special
I was just going to address the tariffs thing but…buddy, those laws exist because race was - and still is - part of the decision making process. It was nearly impossible for a non-white person to get a good job.
He’s an authoritarian nut job that is destroying this country and ignoring the Constitution. He’s emboldened the racists to be more open and violent. Unless you are a billionaire, he will eventually get around to destroying everything you hold dear as well. Don’t think you are special.
I think tariffs ARE a solution to manufacturing being exported. Your hatred for Trump is clouding your opinion of the economics of jobs. And I imagine a lot of billionaires are less than happy with the revenue loss they are about to have with trade being down. I really doubt Trump is coming for ‘everything I hold dear’. I think this country was already broken well before he was in office, so you really can’t blame him for that. Whether you think DEI policies are racist is subjective- making race part of any decision making process for jobs or education is racist in my opinion. Nobody is special. I don’t think he has ‘emboldened the racists’. If your local police force isn’t addressing violence why don’t you blame them?
The Democrats were using the right means to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US, forcing the government to get contracts from US factories. Tariffs are just dumb.
Tariffs are a way to bring manufacturing back into the country, but why have blanket tariffs instead of targeting specific sectors to incentivize bringing back manufacturing in those sectors?
And tariffs are not the only way to bring manufacturing back, government can subsidize bringing manufacturing back. Biden did that with the CHIPS act, where are Trump equivalent of the CHIPS act?
Furthermore, if the plan is to bring manufacturing home why is Trump trying to kill the CHIPS act?
And why is he gutting education when it’s obvious to anyone that manufacturing requires skilled labor?
He’s doing only one thing (and he’s doing that very poorly) that is supposed to bring manufacturing back and everything else he does more or less works against bringing manufacturing back. You have to have blinders on to really believe he’s trying to bring manufacturing back to America.
Exactly. Biden was bringing a lot of manufacturing into Ohio through the chips and infrastructure acts. Manufacturing with good mixes in skill of labor.
We aren’t competitive in stuff like steel or high volume low cost manufacturing. What we are able to compete on is high skill and high tech manufacturing. Things like chips, manufacturing equipment, and vehicles. Our labor is disproportionately skilled and our costs of living and land are significantly higher than in many countries. I would also love a focus on domestic production of green technologies like batteries, wind turbines, solar panels, and trains and rail equipment. There’s a reason China focused on such things.
I’m pro manufacturing, it’s my career. But tariffing everyone and everything doesn’t improve manufacturing. Targeted combinations of tariffs and subsidies do.
Additionally it needs to be said that when Trump does target, he focuses on outdated things, namely coal.
Wow, a real life mind reader. What’s it like to be inside someone’s head and tell them how their mind works? Pretty cool.
You had me in the first half, but then lmfao really? Yes this country has been on a decline for a while, steep one at that. But his actions are the equivalent of ripping out the ventilator and kicking the patient down a flight of stairs.
This is how we know you are one. Multiple of his cabinet picks have clear ties to white supremacy orgs, and he loves to rain down punishment on anyone who fights for people to be treated equally.
I didn’t write this to convince you of anything. That hope is dead for people like you. There is no hope of instilling empathy in any real trump supporter at this point, I truly believe that. I wrote this for anyone who reads this conversation.
Factories don’t appear out of thin air, you have to set them up first
‘hasnt emboldened racists’
My brother in [entity], his admin has scrubbed a lot of non-white history from its website and has discredited the former secretary of Defense as a DEI hire. He was a three star general. Compare that to Hegseth.
History is not on your side. Sweeping tariffs are BAD for the country.
Capitalism is carrot-motivated, NOT stick. You want companies to manufacture in the US? Provide incentives to do so, not threats if they don’t.
You said earlier it will take longer than 1 term to build out. You’re 100% correct. So why did Trump full send the tariffs right away? I agree that we need more manufacturing in this country but it’s a 10-20 year goal…which is why you slowly increase the tariffs to allow companies time to build out while also not fucking over your citizens.
I was just going to address the tariffs thing but…buddy, those laws exist because race was - and still is - part of the decision making process. It was nearly impossible for a non-white person to get a good job.