• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Sure, I’m blaming protestors for not being effective. And not specific to any particular event. In general most protests I see in my life have been useless and theatrics. Telling people to just show up and hope for the best in my mind is immoral, unethical and should discussed more.

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        6 months ago

        Dunking on protestors “not being effective” is just the worse. It might be useless to you, but to many it is a useful launching point of some meaningful discussions.

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          6 months ago

          The worst is seeing important causes lose traction and ground others fought for because some group decides they want to take action without properly being prepared and organized.

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            Just because you’re not prepared to talk about the protests in a way that gives traction to the issue doesn’t make the protestors wrong.

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                That these type of events are inevitable and one can prepare and organize to respond with solidarity that shapes the message in the way you think would be beneficial.

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                  They’re not inevitable and the ask would be that if you do something do it right. If people decide they will get to this point that they take greater care in representing the issue as they have now elected themselves as the face of it.

                  Going back to the fuck cars group. Most people know deflating tires is wrong and will make people angry. Going out and doing it for attention and saying its for climate change harms how serious other people perceive the issue. But my options are not be a coward or go out and show solidarity by shaping this message while I deflate tires. Its being responsible enough to know I don’t have the ability to drive positive change publicly and so I find other ways.