Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

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    Yes, you’re right. When given a binary choice it’s always worse to choose the side that will bring more fascism. I’m glad you recognized that at one point. Hopefully you can come back around to it.

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      You’ve picked that same choice every four years for decades, and all it’s done is bring more fascism.

      Don’t complain now that that fascism might effect you

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        Out of the three choices available to me it’s brought the least fascism one can muster through the voting process. Not voting is a way to bring about marginally more fascism (I especially hope you are voting locally right?) There are 3 years and 364 other days to do political action. Please use those. I don’t see voting as anything but an awful way to choose the lesser of two evils and as a miniscule but necessary part of mine and your capacity for political action.

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          There is no genuine socialist political movement left in the US; it’s been systematically destroyed - with enthusiastic support by liberals.

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            I wholeheartedly encourage you to spend your time advocating for socialism and trying to revive the movement, hell, I’ve spent time canvasing for local socialist candidates. You know what that didn’t stop me from doing? Spending 20 minutes walking to my polling place once every 4 years to vote for the least fascist out of 2 shitty candidates.

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                Of course. I hate the system I exist in. Not voting for either fascist is saying you’re ok with either one winning, and you’re fine with the more fascist one winning, not somehow ascending yourself out of the system.

                At the end of the day one of only two candidates will win and enact their favored policies. As I said, please for the love of God be politically active in favor of socialism the other 3 years and 364 days that exist, we need to change the system.

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                  unsurprisingly, “yeah he’s a fascist, but” is not a convincing answer. I’m voting for the PSL. I won’t be holding my nose to vote for this octogenarian zionist again , fuck that lmao

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                    I mean, that’s fine. You’ve convinced yourself that both candidates are equally bad to placate yourself. That is so clearly not true but if you’re holding on to that totem there’s not a lot I can do about that.

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                  Liberals have systematically destroyed all serious attempts at left wing organization, and put structures in place to make it impossible for them to reemerge. And they did this with a hundred times more gusto then they ever put towards stopping the rise of fascism.

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        I love when PEOPLE on lemmy act like THEY tried to warn everyone so THEY’RE not responsible. How many election cycles have you participated in? You haven’t done shit and will continue not doing shit, congratulations.