I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn’t see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed
edit: the mod in question is @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone . sorry for not originally tagging. i hadn’t realized it was a rule that this must be done. i thought it seemed inappropriate since i was trying to initiate a conversation about a community’s rules and culture rather than start drama about an individual
How do banned mods expect to defend themselves?
I banned them instance-wide months ago, not just after this post to stop them defending themselves, and not specifically for this community; we have allowed mods on alts before to speak if they were banned on their main, but i think this is a very, very clear case of PTB. They deny the genocide blatantly, and in general has spouted pretty disgusting bullshit.
As for the genocide denial claim, check out this thread. https://lemmy.world/comment/19713120 (Deleted comments but check modlogs). They have also used “genocide” in quotes. If all of this doesn’t make them a zionist, i do not know what does.
Also small bonus, I was in a thread with another zionist once (in that thread that person went mask off and called me and all arabs subhuman, and was just horribly racist in general) and ikt refuted my “all arab populations support palestine” claim, i am literally in the middle east lmao, didn’t know i actually needed a racist from australia to tell me true reality 😂 they were banned at the time so i did not see their gold reply, but i just discovered it in the modlog lol
In short, this asshole has nothing to defend since they’ve made their positions very clear. I don’t want somebody like them on our instance, even on alt; just to spew hateful rhetoric in “defense” of themselves.
that’s certainly the modlog history.
I’m sure you want to correct the record in this thread that I’m unrelated to ikt’s actions. There are more comments referencing me than there are comments referencing ikt.
Yeah i noticed, even after the spat between dbzer0 and mog i do not think you had anything to do with this, since checking the comm modlog it was clearly all by ikt, who as i’ve described is a huge piece of shit; and you’ve abandoned that community anyway checking the “asking for mods” post. I’ll talk to the other mods about this
I also notice that this post doesn’t meet the posting guidelines
There’s no mod/admin listed
There are only removed posts, no banned users.
There’s no screenshot showing the mod name
There’s an explanation for each removal
There’s no explanation as to why this is unfair.
It also doesn’t meet some of the rules:
Quill didn’t receive any of these mod actions.
There are no mod names attached
The accused PTB also can’t respond
Browsing through some of the posts across this community, very few actually meet the guidelines and rules. For the sake of transparency and the purpose of this community, shouldn’t the standards be much higher?
there is an explanation for why this is unfair: the rule is not explicitly stated anywhere. it seems outwardly to be something that was arbitrarily decided and never communicated. i tried to keep it very focused on that. i’m sorry i messed up on this post in some regards, i will amend my post some more when i’m at my computer and can add more screenshots.
i was actually really trying to keep the focus on that this community is a problem instead of turning this into a “everyone point fingers!” time. it seemed to me like since this is the world news community with the second most subscribers like it would be a likely place for newcomers to lemmy to go looking for this content. i saw at the time the most recent post was from the last 24 hours, idicating to me that it was still active.
my first comment in this whole thread was drawing attention to other communities people might want to subscribe to to elevate their visibility and encourage users to subscribe to them, elevating their profile. i was less concerned with ikt defending themselves since i think they’ve made their stance abundantly clear through their actions and more concerned with limiting the damage done by a community that appears atop the list due to its subscriber account since everything is political and everything is propaganda.
for full disclosure, i think israel’s genocide of the Palestinian people rises to the level of being world news, relevant to everyone. if it were me and i were subscribed to this comm, i’d want to unsubscribe and find other comms to join to increase their visibility rather than stay connected to a wavelength that presents a skewed view of the world via omission.
i’m less interested in reforming heavily propagandized people on a presence platform than i am on limiting the damage they can do. over the years i’ve reached the conclusion that the internet is not a free forum for discussion, but a great huge alleyway covered in posters. our role, as the people in that alleyway, is to make sure our view has presence so that later someone can perform the verbal confirmation that actually shifts views in the propaganda formula.
i get that the whole world is invested in what’s occurring, but it doesn’t give much room for other global news, which is why ikt was removing it I think
until there’s a rule or a pinned post i won’t speculate on their reasoning and only judge based on that actions speak louder than words
so what do you think about this community’s response to your thread?
personally i am unsurprised, YPTB is quite obsessed with me
Huh, i actually didn’t notice. I mostly only moderate on this community when it’s breaking of instance rules or clear spam, but i leave the actual moderation per comm guidelines to Unruffled or db0. I didn’t even know we have a ‘accused PTB can’t respond’ rule lol, but i have only banned their main, and it was a couple of months ago, unrelated to this post.
But yea you raise a good point. @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com what do you two think ?
You should aim to follow the sidebar rules .
There is no “accused PTB can’t respond”. I don’t know what either of you are talking about. We explicitly allow PTBs to respond. Just not by opening new threads about it.
Yeah, but what about the majority of posts made in this community not actually following these guidelines and rules?
I’m not as anal about rules like other mods. I understand that people often don’t see the sidebars and mistakes happen easily. So long as things tend to follow the spirit of the comm, I tend to let things go or just ask the OP to amend their post. The rules are there to help people follow the spirit of the comm.
Doesn’t that fall under “other sanctions”?
They can make an alt for this specific purpose, or ask someone to post for them.