• Halafax@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    The major finding is that incels are their own worst enemy and need to improve themselves instead of playing a victim

    That’s not sympathy, sadly that’s what I’ve come to expect in this conversation.

    A significant finding in this study was the extent to which incels reported to be NEET (not in education employment or training), lower-educated, or still living with their parents. Roughly 17% of incels (compared to only 9% of non-incels) reported to be NEET. Given the premium that women do indeed place on status, education and economic success when selecting a mate, improving the material-conditions of men’s lives through education, housing and employment, might help them to form romantic relationships, and thus improve their mental wellbeing

    Communities are a spectrum of individuals with different situations. I feel like this comment is putting the cart (result) before the horse (cause) for a significant portion of this particular self identified community. To what extent is the lack of education/employment/training the result of individuals who can’t function (mentally, physically, emotionally) at that level instead of refusing to? To what extent are these individuals excluded from opportunities or help because of their sex?

    Is there a significant different between how society sees lower functioning men vs lower functioning women? I think there is, and I think ignoring it and telling lonely men to boot strap themselves to success is a perilous message for many of the individuals. The large (and largely ignored) numbers of male suicide and homelessness is everything a struggling guy needs to know about how he fits into society.