A few months ago, there was a post on the antifeminist sub. The post was a screenshot from an incel website that was posted on the Nothowgirlswork sub. There was a comment from nothowgirlswork which roasted the incel post.

The incel said he felt anxiety when he walked on the streets and saw women. The comment from nothowgirlswork was ridiculing him for feeling fear of women. He didn’t say anything misogynistic. There are some incels (on incel websites) who condone horrible things like raping women. This post was not like that.

It made me think that society expects men to be fearless and brave. Men are human and fear is a normal emotion that everyone has. It’s normal to feel anxiety around women, if the man has been traumatized in the past. Maybe the incel was traumatized by a woman in the past. People shouldn’t judge someone without knowing them.

The truth is women can be just as dangerous as men. Society has to stop thinking women are not as dangerous.

If a woman said she felt anxiety around men, redditors would be supporting her. They would say men are rapists and she should be scared of them. She would get all the empathy and sympathy. Reddit shows what people think secretly. Many people in society have this double standard too.

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    1 year ago

    He didn’t say anything misogynistic. There are some incels (on incel websites) who condone horrible things like raping women. This post was not like that.

    It made me think that society expects men to be fearless and brave.

    Can we expect men not to post on websites that condone doing horrible things to women?

    Sidestepping addressing the company that poster keeps,

    “society expects men to be fearless and brave” is true.
    “society expects men to be fearless and brave” is fucked up.
    “society expects men to be fearless and brave” is patriarchy.
    …somebody should really get to work dismantling that, for the sake of men and non-men everywhere.

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        1 year ago

        No, but I can see where you’re confused.

        Patriarchy (unlike “misandry”) is that thing which exists.

        It is harmful to everyone, including men.

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                  1 year ago

                  It’s a valid question. And if you insist on using terminology that is often used in a misandrist way, you better explain exactly how you view it, what your definition of it is, and what, if any, evidence there is for its existence.

                  Attempts at gaslighting us into accepting misandry are not welcome here.

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                  1 year ago

                  You’ve seen the evidence, you just reject it.

                  A few men being billionaires doesn’t mean patriarchy exists like the way feminists have defined it.

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                    1 year ago

                    The vast majority of billionaires being men is very different from “a few men being billionaires”.

                    Substitute billionaires with CEOs, politicians, etc

                    The patriarchy is being dismantled (thank Christ) but it’s still around. Especially among older generations.

                    And there’s a kind of neo-patriarchy being set up by Trump, Bolsonaro, etc and their followers. Abortion access in the US is a huge one.

                    And of course that’s not even mentioning open patriarchal societies like the Middle East.

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            1 year ago

            lolol, you being serious right now, champ?

            Have I wondered into one of those shitposting magazines where people say anydamn thing for kicks or do you actually believe what you just typed?