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  • ahem I know about e-x and convergence thanks, I had some math in high school too.

    I don’t know what it means for the tendency of the rate of profit to be negative (or positive, or 0 for that matter). It’s not a number. If you’re talking about the rate of profit of course that can go negative. I think what you mean is that it will be balanced out, but not as high as it was before. Here is how its explained in Wage labour and capital, emphasis mine

    We have just seen how the fluctuation of supply and demand always bring the price of a commodity back to its cost of production. The actual price of a commodity, indeed, stands always above or below the cost of production; but the rise and fall reciprocally balance each other, so that, within a certain period of time, if the ebbs and flows of the industry are reckoned up together, the commodities will be exchanged for one another in accordance with their cost of production. Their price is thus determined by their cost of production.

    If you want to illustrate this movement a function like cos(x)/x would be more prudent. Here is 10*cos(x)/x to make it “pop” more:

    Remember that convergence doesn’t necessarily mean monotone convergence, and you’ll be hard pressed to find a monotone graph in economics 😄 Here is a more illustrive graph for TRPF

    You also say that “companies continue to produce stuff as long as the profit is larger than zero, which it always stays” which is absolutely false! A companies profit absolutely can be zero, or even negative! Remember profit = m - m’, where m’ is the money you have after selling the commodity. Or in more plain words, if you have less money after selling than before producing you made negative profit. If you didn’t get your investment back, you didn’t make profit.




  • Nature compells us to work for food anyway, that’s not exploitation and coercion, that’s just survival.

    Not all of us ahem bourgeoisie ahem

    The construct of society is predicated on the idea of “from each… to each…”

    of course, however what makes a societies differ is exactly what gets filled in to the “…”

    “from each slave to each slavemaster” -> slavery
    “from each serf to each lord” -> feudalism
    “from each worker to each owner” -> capitalism
    “from each person (according to their ability) to each person (according to their need)” -> socialism 😄



  • Ok so unprofitable businesses keep going bankrupt, get gobbled up by a bigger corporation until one corporation has a monopoly. That’s the trend we’re seeing right? How many corporations for food are there left now? Nestle, Unilever, Coca Cola, Mondelez and that’s pretty much it right? Well what happens when the tendency of the rate of the profit to fall forces them to no longer produce food. Do we just go extinct?

    This (in case of the “butter mountains” and in general) isn’t some politicians deciding which companies to keep, this is the state intervening to save itself. They have to prop up an entire industry that cannot reduce costs any further which means that the price keeps fluctuating around 0 profit which means the entire industry goes extinct. That’s why there is a fixed price on milk, not to save some companies, but to prop up the entire industry. Capitalism will devolve sooner or later into state planning since without this state intervention industries start collapsing.

    Could you imagine the ramification of the entire dairy industry dying out? (😸) The economy would go haywire, entire villages depend on their dairy farming, they would revolt it would be pandemonium. This is where capitalism finally leads.





  • If the person doesn’t want to work how will they sustain themselves? They have to rely on other peoples labor without contributing their own. If people don’t want to subsidize someone else then that person would either have to start working “against their will” or take other peoples labor without consent, which you have already pointed out, is not vegan. So if everyone were vegan that person would be compelled to work as they are able in order to be able to remain vegan.

    Idk its kinda tortured logic when spelling it all out lol



  • Veganism is simply not taking part in animal suffering, you’re thinking of “animal liberation” which is the active part.

    And yes one way to reduce animal suffering is to leverage basic market laws about supply and demand. But buying and selling isn’t capitalism. People in every socialist nation ever have bought and sold stuff, and when stuff wasn’t in demand the supply reacted accordingly. If you want an introductory book I can recommend some (earnest, not trying to be mean, it just seems like you don’t know the definition of the terms you’re using).

    But there is also direct action, adoption of rescued animals and maybe some other stuff I can’t remember right now that people that take part in animal liberation do.




  • CW holocaust stuff

    if you’re going to consume us either way - our caloric and nutritional values are abysmal (compared to our alternatives).

    Well you can still make leather from human hide and other human-based products. That’s what the nazi’s did with their prisoners. The whole work camps where basically human agriculture where they were maximising the profit the could gain by minimizing the cost of sustaining the labor-power. They were calculating how much calories people need in order to do exactly the work required and nothing else so they could save penny’s on food. That’s why they started experimenting with human leather, in order to recoup some of the costs by creating commodities from the corpse a laborer left behind etc. It’s really was the same mentality that goes into dairy farming or chicken or really any animal agricutlure ever.