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Cake day: February 21st, 2026

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  • I do think we agree on the practical implication for jobs - just that laws don’t align with that where I’m at. (If you can’t/refuse to do the job, you shouldn’t be working it)

    That’s odd, because one could just say “I can’t change the job description without changing the role I am hiring, and I only need that role.”

    It’s central to the problem. Individuals from religious groups sue employers (often successfully) citing that not hiring them or firing them for refusing to fulfill the job description would be discrimination. (This is not unique to any one group btw)

    you’d prefer to force people to not adhere to their religion

    No. What I’m saying is that they should be solely responsible for the consequences of their faith. Other people should not be forced to give them special treatment due to their religion.

    I think you’re referring to Muslim practice as delusional

    I wasn’t. I was creating a hypothetical of somebody non-religous (or at least not an adherent to a major religion) placing greater or equal value on not shaving as a religious person might. The point being that major religions are given preferential treatment as compared to other beliefs and preferences.

    So to be clear, yeah, a faith to the Muslim god which forbids shaving is respectable and not delusional.

    There are certainly different ways for religious folks to be faithful. However, in the modern day, literal adherence to many modern religions essentially amount to centering your life around a myth. At best, it is a sign of being misguided and ignorant with regard to scientific fact (which is incompatible with those myths) and at worst it amounts to a delusion (yes, I will use that word). Willfully rejecting overwhelming evidence.

    Somebody can be respectable in spite of that, but in my book, it is a clear negative.


  • Yeah, obviously.

    What’s so obvious about it? The initial example here is facetious and absurd, but what’s to say that I don’t take my “beard honour” just as seriously as someone else does their religion?

    Because I’ve certainly met people who take their religion very lightly, yet absolutely will use it as an excuse for special treatment at every opportunity.

    A less absurd example might be somebody with the delusion (a.k.a strongly held personal belief) that their value as a man depends entirely on their beard, that they might as well kill themselves if they were unable to have one. Or someone with a facial scar tied to incredible emotional trauma that they use their beard to cover up.

    The simple fact is that special treatment of religious adherents is discriminatory, not against them, but against everyone else. The root of the problem is that laws that were intended to prevent special maltreatment of religious adherents have instead become leveraged as a basis to grant privileges. When they don’t get the job after refusing to follow hygiene protocol, shake hands with certain demographic groups or perform job duties, they sue their employer for discrimination. They demand the job, and demand that the job description be changed to fit their personal preferences.

    I agree, it should be as simple as “can you do the job or not”. If being clean shaven is part of the job description (which I certainly could find good reasons for, such as gas masks or hygiene) and you refuse to be clean shaven, then you’re out.


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    The most at hand explanation I think would be biological differences between the genders. Male puberty is, on average, delayed by approximately 18 months in comparison. Girls/women are earlier in development and mature earlier, boys/men later.

    Puberty was pretty much the defining factor back in the day for adulthood vs childhood.


  • Those “special privileges” aren’t a “privilege,” but a duty to one’s faith.

    If I were to say I had a “duty” to my own atheist sense of beard honor or whatever, that’d fly out the window. Religion is a preference, a choice. The duty is only to the persons own sense of pride and morality.

    We have similar problems with nurses of certain religions in my country, refusing to do their job (for instance related to abortion) and endangering patients citing religion.

    Thankfully the regulations have been upheld and these people have been told “If you refuse to do your job, you’re fired.” in these cases, but there is a religious lobby rapidly growing in influence in my country, and have already secured exceptions from stuff like hygiene rules in healthcare.

    A “beard exception” matters little in truth, but allow one such exception and suddenly they’re everywhere (I’d argue let people have their beards ffs!). However, this kind of pandering is insane, dangerous and my patience for it is very limited. Religion is their choice, but that is no excuse to impose their will on the rest of society.

















  • To answer the question in your title, it depends on what you’re looking for.

    When I was in my teens I didn’t know where I would be in a few years, planning for the future was difficult. The main criteria I used was that I didn’t want to regret a relation. It should be something I could look back on fondly and think “Yes, this was meaningful” even later.

    As my life got a bit more predictable in my now early twenties and the road ahead more clear, this has shifted my priorities strictly towards seeking a partner for life. Right now, I have found someone who (hopefully) is it. Time can pass quickly, so once you’ve an idea of what you’re looking for in a long term partner (assuming you want one) it may be a good idea to not get stuck in dead-end relations.


    situation specific part

    As for the situation you describe here in your post, to me it looks like a huge red flag to be extra careful even if this relation can be enjoyable for the time being.

    To be clear, what follows here is anecdotal, based on a personal experience with a friend who had a similar relationship with an arab where his family had the same kinds of reservations. Your mileage might vary, just make sure to not simply assume that he’s as open-minded you want him to be, ask.

    In any case, my friends ex seemed like a very reasonable (i.e not misogynistic) person when I met him but things got ugly when she wanted to break up. His own values had been much closer to those of his family than he let on. Suddenly she was “his” and he wouldn’t allow her to break up. Not great.