As little sympathy as I normally hold for any Jan 6 rioters, it is downright cruel to house her in a male prison. From what I’ve been able to suss out, she has been transitioned since at least 2004 when she did her legal name change. This is a person who has fully transitioned and been living as a woman for nearly 2 decades. Even though she is a traitorous piece of crap she deserves fair punishment under the law. To me, being a woman put into a male prison population should be considered cruel and unusual.
I’m conflicted. I completely agree with you and all of your points, and I don’t want to set a precedent like this.
But she did vote and advocate for the party that wants to keep misgendering her too…
Edit: I know folks, I agree with you all, we shouldn’t encourage this. The schadenfreude is sweet, but Ultimately it’s a bad thing. We should treat even the people who are against us with the respect we ask for
I look at it this way: we reveal ourselves by how we treat our helpless opponents.
Perfectly normal to have the emotional response of ‘serves her right.’ The better person has to stop, set the emotion aside, and ask whether the treatment fits their moral framework. If you can’t articulate why a transgendered friend, convicted of some crime, should be cross-housed, then this woman probably shouldn’t be, either.
Feeling conflicted is good - it’s your rational brain fighting with your emotional brain and winning.
We (LGBTQ) cant keep tolerating intolerance, or else we are going to end up without rights.
“We have to be the better person”, “We reveal ourselves by how we treat our helpless opponents”, etc… until we end up shot dead like that woman that put up the rainbow flag.
Fuck that.
Having her serve her sentence in the appropriate prison isn’t tolerating intolerance. She will still be convicted and be in prison for the duration of her sentence.
What she voted for is completely independent of what society should be doing. The whole point is that her worldview is fucked and we do not want that worldview informing policy. So celebrating her getting her comeuppance is really just the same revenge fantasy that regressives push in lieu of actual policy.
She’s very likely going to be sexually assaulted and scarred for life, and I personally feel like this is unacceptable, even if it’s a leopard-eating-face moment.
Im not going to lose my sleep for something happening to someone that is electing people that want to take LGBTQ rights away. I agree that she should be in a women’s prision. I am in no way celebrating what’s happening to her, but she elected her own destiny.
It’s almost a guarantee that she is going to be raped multiple times in a men’s prison. And while you could say that she is supporting the people who make this happen, leopards eating faces and all that, and therefore, had it coming… no one deserves this. Being principled means standing for your enemies when it’s necessary, even if you know they wouldn’t do the same for you.
Does she deserves prison? I mean… I guess, if we think prison is good, then yes? But that’s a whole other debate. But I’m seeing it like this: On one hand: It’s a Trump supporter dipshit who stormed the fucking capitol and is getting what’s coming to them, fuck them. But on the other hand: It’s a trans woman being thrown in a men’s prison and is therefore going to be raped multiple times and/or be forced to be stuck in solitary the whole time. And that is not ok, at all.
Stop posting videos from this guy hes literally a human trafficker with a fake accent, hes 100% a federal agent
Do you have any sources for this?
His full name is justin eric king. You can search for the documents on google, but while reading the docs ask yourself how someone gets out of jail after 3 years and gets to keep their money for trafficking eastern european women into the US.
No, he doesn’t. Regarding human trafficking, he helped migrants get into the us at one point and got caught. He has addressed his arrest in a couple of videos.
He was caught trafficking eastern european women into the US… idk if you know anything about human trafficking but stealing peoples paperwork and forcing them to work it off is akin to slavery
Do you have any proof?
https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2008/February/08_crm_145.html
This is all I could find. You asserted that he “stealing peoples paperwork and forcing them to work it off is akin to slavery”. That isn’t collaborated anywhere that I know of. From everything I can tell is that he served his time, paid his dues and now is a very good advocate for social justice. I’ll take it.
Additionally, I’m assuming this is the correct guy. I don’t know that it is, but I’m assuming so for the sake of simplicity.
That said, his statements stand and fall on their own merit. Who says them doesn’t make much of a difference. David Duke could have said that Black people are systematically oppressed in america and he would be 100% correct even though he’s a monster.
This reddit thread has some more info and the comments are enlightening: https://www.reddit.com/r/BeauOfTheFifthColumn/comments/111qse9/beau_of_the_fifth_column_human_trafficking_slaver/
https://youtu.be/r0MrQi29xl8 (skip to 6:40)
In this case sexual assault is almost a guarantee. If for no other reason at all, that one should be enough to warrant her being housed in a women’s prison.
I love beehaw. The leftists here are shining examples of how we as a society should behave. We universally distain what she stands for and what she has done, but pretty much all of us advocate for her humane treatment. I am so thankful that I signed up for this instance instead of one of the others.
We’re not going to get our wish either way, unfortunately. I very seriously doubt that rape is only commonplace in men’s prisons. Our prisons appear to be specifically designed to encourage and maximize prisoners raping each other, because everyone on the outside considers that part of the punishment (“don’t drop the soap”).
Your comment made me curious, so I looked it up and found a 2006 study that says you are absolutely correct, inmate-on-inmate sexual violence is almost 4 times higher in women’s prisons: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2438589/ I seriously did not expect that.
Wow. I expected it to be lower but still prevalent. Definitely didn’t expect it to be four times higher.
