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The worst part is that many of those who fall for this lie are some of the worst off, financially speaking. And they’re often surrounded by people in similar positions.
They know they’re fucked. They’ll watch neighbors lose homes, avoid doctors, go through times when they can’t pay bills, etc.
Then they’ll turn around and vote against their own interests. Against the interests of those they’re close to.
Fucking wild that the propoganda machines are that powerful.
I believe it works so well on those who are in a bad financial situation because whatever little money they make, they want to/need to keep as much of it as possible.
That makes them an easy target of “we’re going to lower taxes.” While of course only doing it for the wealthy and screaming the left wants to give your hard earned money to lazy people, immigrants, sex changes or whatever marginalized group is the flavour of the year to attack.
It’s the government that has all
the restofmyyour money. We have to cut taxes soIyou can get more of itfrom you!Am I the only one here who’s bothered by what really counts?
Why is left standing right and right standing left?
The universe makes no sense anymore!
I want to see a thought provoking comment but I don’t have one to offer myself. What to do?
I know your comment isn’t truly asking, but I want to answer just because there was a time when I used to put a lot of pressure on myself to generate something truly insightful, creative, deep, etc. before voicing my thoughts or opinion. Then I realized you don’t need to do that. I still have a tendency to - and I’m not saying everyone should just voice their loud-ass bullshit without thinking.
You likely have an insight that someone would find interesting, even if it seems entirely obvious to you. Great conversation can sometimes be a very simple volley back and forth of extremely basic observations.
Run with whatever logic this makes your mind go to… even if it’s something like “crazy that people vote to give rich people more money” or another basic interpretation of this. It gets the ball rolling for other people, let’s them put a new spin on it, and may be that little spark needed to create something more impactful.
I needed this today. Thanks.
if you think about it the poor probably have all the money that makes sense.
East Coast Its! This is my favorite webcomic, hands down.
Is there a website? I’m just finding Instagram and I pretty much hate that.
The closest I found to a non social media site is the patreon https://www.patreon.com/eastcoastitnotes Not much for free though
He usually posts pretty regularly to reddit as well =/ I just follow on Instagram.
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We need to bring in new people as fast possible
so that the housing demand pushes up rents, and the labor supply pushes down wagesbecause it’s racist to think otherwise.Sure, now your out of the in group, because I say so, do my bidding serf. Complain more about the concept of ‘mine’ while we all burn. oh wait /s
I want to support leftism because their ideals are wonderful, but all the leftist groups I find are full of traitors that support Russia and China, despite the fact that those two countries are actually fascist instead of communist. What should I do?
What? The only supporters of Russia I see are Republicans.
I see that you’ve never been afflicted with hexpups
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I think hexbears are mostly edgy teens though, not sure they represent actual left wing parties
The hexbear consensus isn’t to support Russia like the commenter above your comment is referring to though, a left wing revolution in Russia would be more than welcome. The humanitarian crisis caused by the undemocratic dissolution of the USSR is still being felt to this day through nationalism playing out in former soviet states.
Think about it this way: just because a group claims to be socialist or leftist, doesn’t exempt them from being fascist. If they support fascism, they’re not leftist, no matter what they call themselves.
Fascism is not a synonym for authoritarian, and the people calling communists “red fascists” don’t seem to understand the differences between the two ideologies, and the history of governments that espoused either.
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Red fascism as a term originates with Trotsky, who, I’m fairly sure we can all agree, understood the difference between communism and fascism.
Mainstream Jewish holocaust survivors don’t like the comparison.
https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory
Also Trotsky sure did a lot of anticommunism for a communist who (checks notes) only joined the communists when it was clear which way the wind was blowing in the summer of 1917 and got kicked out of the party and exiled by 80 percent of the party after several years of advocating for the petite bourgeoisie.
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Just find a local Democrat group, irl in your area. They likely won’t be as progressive as you want, but you can have a voice in the candidates and initiatives they endorse. They also won’t be tankies.
I’m guessing the DSA is “tankie” to this person.
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Truth is, both have it. Illegal immigrants cost a lot of money, the jobless (those who are too lazy to work, not the unfortunate ones) getting a lot of welfare and health care costs a lot of money, and the super rich not paying taxes and earning ridiculous and unethical amount of money also costs a lot of money. The most suffering people are people working hard every day, being able to afford less and less. But those are the people running the countries. They should be the ones having a sufficient amount of wealth. Now keep downvoting me for not endlessly repeating your far left propaganda in this echo chamber.
those who are too lazy to work
What no understanding of the necessity of the surplus army of labor under capitalism does to a mfer.
those who are too lazy to work
This didn’t take long to draw in a bootlicker.
“Now keep downvoting for sharing my ignorant, hateful and biggoted views. Gosh, one cannot be a bigot without being downvoted these days, specially on leftists communities. What happened to the good old days when one could be a bigot and hate on immigrants all day long without being called out for it!”
You have no idea how to balance a budget.
“Hmm, candles cost me 1500$ a month. But on the other hand, I could save 200$ a month if I reduced my groceries. I need to save 1000$, clearly I’ll just stop buying groceries” that’s your solution lol
You could have literal millions more immigrants or social welfare recipients, tax the rich properly, and be able to afford it.
The phrase “a lot of money” means two very different things here. The difference in scale between illegal immigrants and the jobless, and the oligarchs, is so many orders of magnitude that’s the difference between them and you is near nothing. Billionaires are not just a little bit richer than you, they have more hoarded than you will make in your lifetime, while illegal immigrants and jobless are more than likely worse off than you and if they’re not you should be shouting to improve your lot not shouting to worsen theirs
A quick google search shows that the total the UK spent on unemployment benefits last year was £1,860,000,000, and on illegal immigration cost £3,000,000,000. Meanwhile Rishi Sunak (our prime minister) and his wife are worth about £1,200,000,000 between them. The median net worth in the UK is apparently £302,500 - that means Sunak and his wife have NEARLY FOUR THOUSAND TIMES more money than most people in the UK, or, if you subtract one from the other, about £1,200,000,000 more money than the average UK household. The Sunak family could literally count most net worth as a rounding error!
Scale on that… well… scale is hard for humans to grasp, but it really does matter in this case
Now I’m not saying he should pay for all of it personally, but he should certainly stop making a song and dance about it and pay his own fair share! The average UK household paid about £55,641 in tax last year. Rishi Sunak pair £1,900,000. Yes that’s more but it’s only 34 times more. Lets be generous and assume that his wife paid twice as much so it;s 100 times more (she doesn’t, she’s officially non-domiciled and therefore pays about £30,000 to avoid paying UK tax of potentially £20,000,000 in tax), that’s still about 2.5% percent of the average taxation as a percentage of net worth.
This should make you angry
