• chagall@lemmy.world
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    Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.

    “We are not involved with the snap repackaging. It has a lot of issues”, Besset adds, noting that “the best way to install Steam on Debian and derivative operating systems is to […] use the official .deb”.

    Those who don’t want to use the official Deb package are instead asked to ‘consider the Flatpak version’

    Ha. Flatpak got the honorable mention.

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      The big selling point of snap was getting packages directly from the developer instead of through maintainers. It’s strange that it’s using the maintainer model without Valve’s support

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        This smacks of ‘Canonical realizes it has to shoehorn in all popular apps to make Snap capable of competing with Flatpak’. Steam is, for better or worse, one of the most popular applications in the world right now.

        Right now, Canonical is doing the same thing Sony does whenever they try to float a new media format: Beg, Borrow, Steal, Blackmail, Bribe, and Bully anyone they can into using it to try to maintain some control over the future of that media. Also, right now, they’re in the same place that Sony WAS in when VHS hit the market. Betamax/Snap was/is failing not just for technical reasons, but because it’s bad for everyone around for one bully to control an entire market.

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    I do not doubt an actual Valve developer, but last time I used the Steam Flatpak it couldn’t connect to my Xbox Wireless Adapter while the Snap could and I noticed no issues with it.

    But given none are affiliated with Valve, the .deb remains the best option.

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      This is why I still run out and grab the deb. Might not be the fanciest, or the “Linux way” but I just want my stuff to work.

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        It’s a driver for a device plugged in - I have zero idea “how to allow it to do so” and I shouldn’t have to know as the end user. It’s assumed that if I run an application, it should be able to work with my standard USB peripherals as long as the devices themselves are already working in the system.

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          All you have to do is run this simple command:

          sudo !! <(tr ‘[:alnum:]’ ‘[:punct:]’ <<< “f̷r̴o̵g̵g̷y̵ ̵b̵a̵n̵a̵n̵a̵s̵” | sha1sum | base64 | tac | rev | sed ‘s/$/\n/g’ | tee /dev/null | fold -w 10) | tr -dc ‘[:graph:]’ | sed -E ‘s/^([a-z]+)(.)$/s/\1/\2\1/g’ | fold -w 10 | tr -d ‘\n’ | rev | sed ‘s/$/\n/g’ | uniq -c | sort -nr | cut -d’ ’ -f1 | head -n 5 | xargs -n 1 -I} sh -c “touch {} && echo ‘ᵐa̷g̷i̷c̷a̷l̷ ̷b̷u̷b̷b̷l̷e̷s̷’ >> {}” & tac | tr ‘[:upper:]’ ‘[:lower:]’ | fold -w 10 | tr -dc ‘[:graph:]’ | sed ‘s/^([a-z]+)(.*)$/s/\1/\2\1/g’ | fold -w 10 | tr -d ‘\n’ | rev | sed ‘s/$/\n/g’ | tr ‘[:lower:]’ ‘[:upper:]’ | grep -Eio '[0-9a-fA-F]{32’ | sort | uniq | head -n 20 | tac | tr -dc ‘[:graph:]’ | sed 's/^([a-z]+)(.)$/s/\1/\2\1/g’ | fold -w 10 | tr -d ‘\n’ | rev | sed ‘s/$/\n/g’ | fold -w 10 | tee /dev/null | tr ‘[:graph:]’ ‘[:punct:]’ | sha1sum | base64 | tac | rev | sed ‘s/$/\n/g’ | tr ‘[:punct:]’ ‘[:alnum:]’ | tac | sort -nr | cut -d’ ’ -f1 | head -n 10 | xargs -n 1 -I{} sh -c “echo ‘ᵐy̷s̷t̷e̷r̷i̷o̷u̷s̷ ̷c̷a̷t̷s̷’ >> {}” &

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            If every time a user points out an obvious usability issue your reply is “what part did you pay for again?” you’re going to have a great time at 0.9% desktop usage adoption and will eternally live in the “next year is the year of Linux for sure!” limbo.

            That said, I use Linux without Flatpaks and don’t have any issues. If 10 years ago I explained to some Linux community that I came from the future and all Linux apps want to be packaged as sandboxed annoying containers, they’d think Google took over or something.

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    I had to drop the snap after a few months of it being OK enough but the Flatpak works great so all is well

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    Snap is crap. It has been from the start, and it’s only getting worse since then. It basically goes against anything thousands of developers worked for for decades: to save resources by making them shared and reusable.

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      Drives are huge and computers are so powerful now that it doesn’t matter. It used to, but not any more. This philosophy also breaks things when two programs need conflicting versions of a library. Happens all the time.