What passing-bells for these who die as cattle?

— Only the monstrous anger of the guns.

Only the stuttering rifles’ rapid rattle

Can patter out their hasty orisons…

– Wilfred Owen

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    The fuck does this dude think soldiers did in the Civil War and World War I?

    They had nothing but time and laudanum. You do the fucking math.

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    Through the travail of the ages,
    Midst the pomp and toil of war,
    I have fought and strove and perished
    Countless times upon this star.
    
    In the form of many people
    In all panoplies of time
    Have I seen the luring vision
    Of the Victory Maid, sublime.
    
    I have battled for fresh mammoth,
    I have warred for pastures new,
    I have listened to the whispers
    When the race trek instinct grew.
    
    I have known the call to battle
    In each changeless changing shape
    From the high souled voice of conscience
    To the beastly lust for rape.
    
    I have sinned and I have suffered,
    Played the hero and the knave;
    Fought for belly, shame, or country,
    And for each have found a grave.
    
    I cannot name my battles
    For the visions are not clear,
    Yet, I see the twisted faces
    And I feel the rending spear.
    
    Perhaps I stabbed our Savior
    In His sacred helpless side.
    Yet, I’ve called His name in blessing
    When in after times I died.
    
    In the dimness of the shadows
    Where we hairy heathens warred,
    I can taste in thought the lifeblood;
    We used teeth before the sword.
    
    While in later clearer vision
    I can sense the coppery sweat,
    Feel the pikes grow wet and slippery
    When our Phalanx, Cyrus met.
    
    Hear the rattle of the harness
    Where the Persian darts bounced clear,
    See their chariots wheel in panic
    From the Hoplite’s leveled spear.
    
    See the goal grow monthly longer,
    Reaching for the walls of Tyre.
    Hear the crash of tons of granite,
    Smell the quenchless eastern fire.
    
    Still more clearly as a Roman,
    Can I see the Legion close,
    As our third rank moved in forward
    And the short sword found our foes.
    
    Once again I feel the anguish
    Of that blistering treeless plain
    When the Parthian showered death bolts,
    And our discipline was in vain.
    
    I remember all the suffering
    Of those arrows in my neck.
    Yet, I stabbed a grinning savage
    As I died upon my back.
    
    Once again I smell the heat sparks
    When my Flemish plate gave way
    And the lance ripped through my entrails
    As on Crecy’s field I lay.
    
    In the windless, blinding stillness
    Of the glittering tropic sea
    I can see the bubbles rising
    Where we set the captives free.
    
    Midst the spume of half a tempest
    I have heard the bulwarks go
    When the crashing, point blank round shot
    Sent destruction to our foe.
    
    I have fought with gun and cutlass
    On the red and slippery deck
    With all Hell aflame within me
    And a rope around my neck.
    
    And still later as a General
    Have I galloped with Murat
    When we laughed at death and numbers
    Trusting in the Emperor’s Star.
    
    Till at last our star faded,
    And we shouted to our doom
    Where the sunken road of Ohein
    Closed us in its quivering gloom.
    
    So but now with Tanks a’clatter
    Have I waddled on the foe
    Belching death at twenty paces,
    By the star shell’s ghastly glow.
    
    So as through a glass, and darkly
    The age long strife I see
    Where I fought in many guises,
    Many names, but always me.
    
    And I see not in my blindness
    What the objects were I wrought,
    But as God rules o’er our bickerings
    It was through His will I fought.
    
    So forever in the future,
    Shall I battle as of yore,
    Dying to be born a fighter,
    But to die again, once more.
    
        - General George S Patton
    
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    Cool that republicans are still hyping up China’s and Russia’s militaries instead of their own. Even after we have seen that Russia’s military is not exactly what the ads and propaganda has been showing us for the last decade.

    That seems totally non-treasonous.

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    “You seem like the kind of guy who would write poetry on an aircraft carrier” is my new go-to insult.

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      Oh I know this one! Francis Scott Key was the badass sitting in jail watching the battle from his cell window and wrote it as the world exploded around him.

      (Thank you Jimmy Williams of the 4th grade who got me into detention - teacher made me write an essay on Francis Scott Key. Jimmy thought it was funny, little did he know of the 2 Lemmy points I would eventually get for my endeavors 30 years later - oh ho ho - who is laughing now, Jimmy!?!)

      Pretty sure those old timer GOPers are just afraid of people who read and understand art because they are barely literate and slightly insane from lead poisoning. That 5G and it’s Wuhan Virus… (angrily shakes arthritic fist)… will get you every time.

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        You’ve got 5 whole Lemmy bucks from where I’m standing! Don’t spend them all in one place.

        That Jimmy Williams sounds like a good guy. Maybe he didn’t do things on purpose, but maybe he did. Sadly teachers aren’t usually allowed to teach history and instead have to teach “history.” He may have seen an opportunity to get you to see the real thing.

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      Pretty sure it sprang into existence from the frothing sea foam when America tm cut off England’s balls and threw them into the Boston harber, a la Birth of Venus.

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    Diverse teams are more effective and deliver better results. A group of people with different backgrounds and experiences will come up with different solutions to a problem than a heterogeneous group. This is a well researched topic. It is why corporate America and the military are pushing for more DE&I.

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    Like how a dude penned “In Flanders’ Fields” in WW1, and Canada lost every war since. /s

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    Tommy tubberville, Worst. Superhero. Ever. He will come up with stupid fantasies about how everyone will kill you unless you give your money to the rich.

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    … says the guy that belongs to a party that fears the freedom of love, and…. books.

    The world has not ever known a cowardice of the level that conservatism has currently reached.

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    What’s wrong with being poetic about your job? One would think it can possibly give you an edge of the true samurai kind?.. Something rather good for a military?

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    I love the irony of the man responsible for holding up officer promotions and DIRECTLY AN UNEQUIVOCALLY DAMAGING MILITARY READINESS FOR A CONFLICT OR EMERGENCY is criticizing service members who do more good for this country on a bathroom break than this shitheel will ever do in his entire life.

    And even more so the irony that the Right’s ‘Anti-Woke’ culture is just a woke culture of it’s own on the other axis, but rather than standing for anything it just exist to oppose and stagnate. The sooner all these people retire and go back under what ever rock they came out from under, the sooner things start to improve across the board for the US.

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      And even more so the irony that the Right’s ‘Anti-Woke’ culture is just a woke culture of it’s own on the other access,

      Unexpectedly agree.

      but rather than standing for anything it just exist to oppose and stagnate.

      And with this too. Just “standing for anything” as I see usually occurs about things that don’t shoot back, but in general yee, that seems to be a correct description of most “right” folks I’ve met.

      Really “right” views (as what LOTR hobbits have in the book, for example) I usually encounter from people with chaotic-good alignment who would themselves most likely identify politically as leftists. Because the “right” is occupied by that swamp now.

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      Don’t forget this is the same rhetoric that right wingers used to compare Russia’s military to the US. Russia is real men, the modern modern military in the world, the best trained, the US is falling behind. The West thought that Ukraine would fall in days in the event of a Russian invasion.

      Then an invasion actually happened and the facade was stripped away.

      Zero surprise they’re recycling their old talking points for China instead.

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    Tommy Tuberville is the kind of cunt that would imply that strong people can’t feel. Give me the poetic military members that will contemplate their actions, please.

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      When people say “what’s there not to like about the South?” I point to the fact that this dude got elected and he’s a walking cte.

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    right now, we are so woke in the military we’re losing recruits right and left

    Tuberville is blocking military promotions. If officers are not regularly promoted, they are discharged from the military. Tuberville is contributing to the discharge of US military persons and blaming it on “wokeness”.

    We’ve got people doing poems on aircraft carriers over the loudspeaker.

    Tuberville portrays this as a problem contributing to “wokeness”. As evidenced by this thread, there is a long storied tradition of war poetry. Including famous military persons.

    After Ingraham asked, “Could we confidently take on China?” Tuberville replied, “Oh no. Oh no. No, and we’re running Russia into China."

    This is false, China is warming to Ukraine. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-06/france-sees-china-easing-stance-on-ukraine-before-g-20-summit#xj4y7vzkg

    "They’re combining up and now BRICS is very, very concerning to me because they’re controlling all the petroleum in the world.”

    Blatantly false. https://investingnews.com/daily/resource-investing/energy-investing/oil-and-gas-investing/top-oil-producing-countries/

    Tuberville is either lying or misinformed. Debunking these comments took some minor work and taught me how effective it is to spew bullshit.