ok so we’re just going to casually announce we’re going to war with Russia then?
For whatever it’s worth, I don’t think this going to lead to escalation to nuclear war, at least within the next several months.
Russia is in a strong position right now, the Ukrainian offensive is a total failure going into winter, political support for continued arms shipments is cracking, and US election season is ramping up.
If Ukraine does try to use these missiles against targets in Russia, and more importantly and more unlikely if any of those attempts succeed at bypassing missile defenses and actually hitting valuable targets, I think Russia would be foolish to try to retaliate against any NATO or US targets outside Ukraine. The consequences of any such strikes would only jeopardize what’s currently looking like kind of an inevitable victory for Russia.
There’s also the strong possibility of these new US missiles being ineffective Wonder Waffles like everything else up to this point. Remember those British Storm Shadow missiles that Ukraine used to hit Crimea? A few strikes and Russia homed in on where they were all stored. One exploded Ukrainian airforce base later and there haven’t been any further Storm Shadow strikes.
The yanks told Saddam the same thing before he turned his internal shitshow towards Kuwait. Is this the turning point? Remember, that although Blinken is on record, the papers can pretend from tomorrow that it never happened and libs will be like:
Of course we need to send the marines in to Ukraine to preserve democracy. (Not too much democracy. We don’t want the communist party to get too comfortable. But nice, polite, civil democracy, that’s tolerant and not rude to ethnic cleaners.) Zelensky went too far. Who could’ve guessed that he would start bombing kindergartens in Russia after realising that sending high tech missiles against well defended military bases doesn’t work after the ‘high tech’ parts have been removed so the Russians can’t reverse engineer them? At least we can count on our friendly neighborhood US military to protect Ukrainians from their own government. They sure are lucky that my leaders are willing to make sacrifices to protect the world from harm. What’s that? Yes, it was obvious to me from the beginning that Ukraine was governed by the most corrupt and evil totalitautharian government in history. Why yes, I always thought Putin was a fine chap; at times I thought he and I were the only ones to see that invading the Donbas was the right decision. Why do you ask?
Why yes, I always thought Putin was a fine chap; at times I thought he and I were the only ones to see that invading the Donbas was the right decision.
Nah, they’ll never go this far. Admitting that a state-dep designated enemy may have been right about something, anything? Won’t happen.
Exactly, highly unlikely. Especially as Russia needs to be the enemy because western corps want its resources. They will just find another pawn than Ukraine to fight Russia when this is finally over. There are tons of compradors in Post Soviet Eastern Europe that will oblige.
the US will team up with russia if the kissinger/mearschimer fuckwads gain power because they think they can turn russia against china
Well if China goes serious about promoting socialism outside its borders, I can kinda see it happening. Bourgeoisie will always sell out if they feel threatened by the proletariat
I don’t think China doing a full foreign policy 180 from non-interference to exporting revolution is on the cards in the near future. More likely the Russian bourgeoisie will just sell resources to China and angle for Chinese investments in Russia.
I mean, they’re already doing that
Yeah, they’ll just continue to do that because it works for them. The Russian people can’t rely on outside help to oust the oligarchs, they have to do it themselves.
That being said, I think the oligarchs were really hurt by Western sanctions which cut off their wealth stored in the West.
In other words, they’re admitting that we’re openly attacking Russia and just blaiming the Ukranians.
provides Intel on target locations
provides munitions
Here, you pull the trigger
It wasn’t me, I swear I’m innocent!
The fact that Blinken isn’t considered a madman where as DPRK leaders are and western nations aren’t considered rogue states, it’s just racism’s pants falling down and exposing its shit stains.
US does not oppose the distribution of stupid prizes to those who play stupid games
Are you advocating for Russia to strike NATO countries for supplying weapons? That’s basically advocating for nuclear war, pretty bad take overall.
What part of what he said implies he’s “advocating for Russia to strike NATO countries for supplying weapons”.?
Thats never really been grounds for war in the past. Otherwise we would have gone to war with the soviets for Vietnam, and the soviets would have gone to war with us for Afghanistan.
If selling or giving weapons to your enemy’s enemy was a cause for war we’d all be dead by now.
We have gone far further than any of those.
Imagine if the Soviet Union gave Vietnam missiles and explicit permission to strike US cities during the war.
That is an entirely different scale of involvement that has never been tested against a large power before.
and explicit permission to strike US cities during the war
While also providing direct targeting data for it to happen
hey comrade I like dunking on the libs too but this is a little ableist
Ahh yes, I forgot that knowing basic history makes me a capitalist?
When did the modern Russian state become anything close to communist or socialist again?
You’re not a capitalist, you’re just a lib bootlicker
Capitalists don’t waste their time defending capitalism online, they’re busy doing drugs and pretending to work
Lol, liberals aren’t capitalist?
Thats never really been grounds for war in the past.
Cuban Missile Crisis ring any bells? The crackers nearly destroyed the planet over it.
Yes, and by all accounts it was an extremely stupid event, but it didn’t start a hot war between the ussr and America.
Because it never lead to missile strikes on the US.
Tony blinken seems like the third position of a human centipede of ideology, like an absolute yes man team player with no independent thoughts. He’s like the refined cream of the professional managerial class. All that, or he’s just extremely dumb.
The imbecile destroyed the “Unprovoked invasion” narrative last week too when he was bragging about his provocation resulting in a bigger NATO.
Am I missing something or is this tweet talking about a different person (Jens Stoltenberg)?
I’m getting my idiots mixed up. They all sound alike to me.
