PARIS, Nov 27 (Reuters) - Six teenagers go on trial behind closed doors on Monday, accused of involvement in the beheading of French history teacher Samuel Paty by a suspected Islamist in 2020 in an attack that struck at the heart of the country’s secular values.

The teacher had shown his pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in a class on freedom of expression, angering a number of Muslim parents. Muslims believe that any depiction of the Prophet is blasphemous.

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        Media Bias Fact Check is only considered “reliable” because people use it. The actual authors of the site lack any real credentials for evaluating factuality, nevermind bias.

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    all religions are cancer. ALL. period. I can criticise any fanatic of any religion the same way I criticise the fanatics of the religion I grew up and was brainwashed to follow. I was able to leave. For some people it may be more difficult because of the situation in their country. However, the people who migrate in mostly atheistic west countries, they continue being fanatics by choice.

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      However, the people who migrate in mostly atheistic west countries, they continue being fanatics by choice.

      There are Arabs who migrate to Europe because they’re not allowed not express their disbelief in their home countries.

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    Maybe these people would be happier moving to a country where their religion is forced down from the government? Maybe go there?

    You’re incompatible with western society so change or get the fuck out.

    And before anyone jumps down my throat I’m speaking specifically of those who don’t accept that things like freedom of speech includes things they don’t like.

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      They are here to expand their religion, not for escaping their country or freedom of speech. They are using freedom of speech to make themselves a victim while expanding their religion in the back.

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        Yes, 100%.

        I really can’t tell if you’re being serious. Just in case…

        The prophet Muhammad was a real piece of shit etc etc etc.

        See? I’m allowed to do that. Thankfully I live somewhere I don’t have to be in fear of saying things like that.

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        religion is a choice and that choice is killing people its ok to be disrespectful to public practicers of religion.

        we should be laughing in their faces and mocking them because its embarassing

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          The part of that that breaks down is that one group’s interpretation of it being okay to kill people isn’t necessarily another person’s religious practice. Mocking the latter is like treating everyone who eats bacon like a psychopath who enjoys slaughtering animals.

          And religion isn’t always a choice for everyone. It should be, but isn’t always.

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            religion is a choice for everyone no exceptions. treating someone eating bacon as a psychopath slaughtering animals isnt the same as bacon and animals are real, and the connection between the two can be studied. religious folk choose to believe something fake that cannot be studied or proved and people die for it. wars are fought over this fake garbage. meat doesnt cause wars (because the vegans are lacking the essential nutrients to fight back lol)

            also i eat meat and you can call me a psychopath if you want. youre not entirely wrong officially the meat industry is terrible i just dont see me boycotting it causing a tangible change, and i like meat.

            edit its important to add, anyone practicing religion gives the people that use religion to kill a platform and sets a precedent that its ok by not ostracizing them. christians like when people they don’t like are murdered. put any religion in place of christian it still works.

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    i’d just like to comment on this comment section

    since i’ve joined lemmy some months ago i’ve seen the nuanced discussion i was so relieved and happy to find here degrading. this section ilustrates that well. the nuanced and cautious are still there, but are being briganded against in a way i don’t think they were before

    maybe i’m sounding like an “eternal september” elitist here, but i do like open discussions on the internet, with all the ugliness that’s bound to happen. i just really hope with all my heart that, in the midst of it all, the good things don’t go away

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    PARIS, Nov 27 (Reuters) - Six teenagers go on trial behind closed doors on Monday, accused of involvement in the beheading of French history teacher Samuel Paty by a suspected Islamist in 2020 in an attack that struck at the heart of the country’s secular values.

    The teacher had shown his pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in a class on freedom of expression, angering a number of Muslim parents.

    One of the minors is a 15-year-old girl who allegedly told her parents that Paty had shown caricatures of the prophet in her class.

    Paty, 47, was killed outside his school in a Paris suburb by an 18-year-old assailant, born in Russia of Chechen origin, who was shot dead by police soon after the attack.

    France is home to Europe’s largest Muslim minority and has suffered a wave of attacks by Islamist militants or their sympathisers in past years.

    In the wake of Paty’s killing, some teachers acknowledged they censored themselves to avoid confrontation with pupils and parents over religion and free speech.


    The original article contains 293 words, the summary contains 173 words. Saved 41%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Sad little cowards can’t live in a free world where people can have their own thoughts on belief.

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    Really don’t know what to make of this comments section. I feel like if this were the World News subreddit, this thread would have already been locked and about 90% of the commenters banned, either by the mods or the Reddit admins.

    It’s surreal to see comments so hostile towards Islam, on Lemmy of all places… And some of these are arguments I often see racists throw around.

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    Islam is so touchy. Even pointing out Mohammed was a bandit and a pedophile gets them going and that is just straight facts anyone can get from reading about his life.

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      Religious extremists are the touchy ones. Plenty of Muslim folks who go on with their lives in peace.

      I do agree that islamist extremists are the worst.

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      Nothing to add, just thought a cock n balls would improve it, seeing as he was a pedo