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      10 months ago

      Yeah, if there’s a market for older CPUs they’re going to sell it.

      I mean Intel still manufactured new original 386 chips until 2007 or so, more than 20 years after release. And who knows how long they still had stock for, if you asked them today with enough $$$ they might find some in a warehouse somewhere.

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        10 months ago

        I beleive some of the early x86 stock was bought up by the space industry as well, along with powerpc and things like that. very large process nodes and simple as possible feature set are a simple way to increase resistance to radiation effects before shielding.

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      10 months ago

      I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with selling it or people buying it, Zen still works, but it is wrong for AMD to sell something they drop support for. Also, not sure how well this would work for windows 11. Perhaps if 10 or linux.

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    10 months ago

    Meanwhile AMD drops Vega drivers, and any other support for such an old CPU, and gets away with selling it.

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      10 months ago

      AMD hasn’t dropped vega drivers though… they moved them to a legacy release cycle, which means they’ll get drivers for Windows 10/11 but at a much slower rate without new features. Adrenalin 23.11.1 is the latest Vega driver… Just checked the Ryzen 3 2200U is still on the latest driver…

      What they do, do is reduce the rate of updates, EG if something breaks polaris in a driver update it might be a few months before those cards get on a new driver… in the grand scheme of things its a non issue for 99% of users.

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    10 months ago

    Would have been nice to see a newer entry level CPU than the 3000G.

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    10 months ago

    Good thing they ditched AM3-era heatsink for modern Wraith Stealth cooler. There’s still a market for everyday desktop PC for home and office use.

    However, it still needs to be paired with between old A320 to X470 mobos only. A520 and above mobos are unsupported.

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    10 months ago

    There aren’t a lot of places AMD can use 14nm anymore. They’re locked into a wafer supply agreement with GlobalFoundries until 2025 and GF abandoned development on their sub-14/12nm nodes.

    Since AMD is moving even IO dies to more advanced nodes, they’re running out of places where they can use GlobalFoundries.

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    10 months ago

    There would never be enough throughput for silicon if we only used the latest nodes. These factories can operate for decades

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    10 months ago

    These and other products (like Zen+ embedded) likely fulfill AMD’s (contractual) wafer-buy obligations to GloFo until 2025. Though GloFo is seeing pretty high demand on 12/14nm for products that don’t really need leading-edge silicon. Trailing-edge is just fine and much more affordable.

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    10 months ago

    There’s always a market for a sub $50 CPU. Office PC, Grandma’s HTPC, a starter computer for your kid, etc.

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      10 months ago

      No shit, I am running a Win NT machine just for excel. Until this thing dies, I have no reason to replace it whatsoever. Too bad CRT went kaput years ago.

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      10 months ago

      Too bad they’re so expensive in Australia, A$159 here.

      It’s only A$189 for a 5600G, I’d be all over one of these for AUD$79 (or less!).

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      10 months ago

      Appliance hardware, kiosks, industrial computers, etc. Equipment we buy at work, a lot of times it comes with older processors.

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    10 months ago

    14nm is the Nokia 3310 of process nodes. It doesn’t give a shit what year it is. It just refuses to die 🗿

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    10 months ago

    For my neighbor I just got them a i5-3470S OptiPlex 8GB ram and 256GB SSD delivered for $46. They had a 2007-2011 model PC that had 7 then 10 then 11 and was so slow.