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too bad the water source isnt visible so we could label it ‘united states funding’
You need a plain water tap with no one pressing the button. And the cup below labeled Gaza.
Well you can be both a perpetrator and a victim
Was about to say. It should be ‘Committing war crimes’ and ‘Also a victim’ lol.
Having 1,200 of your countrymen slaughtered through terrorist violence makes you a victim. It doesn’t give carte blanche to annihilate everything in your path for vengeance though.
You stop qualifying for sympathy when you as the victim decide to escalate in the name of revenge
I’m admittedly not well-versed in international affairs, but hasn’t Israel been waiting for an opportunity to do exactly what they’re doing for decades? We’ve armed them to the tooth, and that has always been at least a little concerning because we understood this to be their disposition. I fully expected some light genocide after hearing about the Hamas attack. It’s looking like they might exceed expectations too. I’m a little shocked at our indifference.
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Could be Russia too, could be Ukraine too
Shit, fighting for freedom is illegal ? We should tell Ukraine about it.
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What Isreal has been doing to the palistinians for several decades :
- Ethnic cleansing.
- Stealing their land and demolishing their houses to put fucking settlers.
- HATE CRIMES
- a genocide every few years
- bombing civilians targeting civilians, schools and hospitals
I bet the freaking party was on fucking stolen land too.
Freedom to palestine.
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Hamas are fighting for their freedom. They’re killing/kidnapping civilians because Isreal has been doing it for decades and been cheered for it. Massacre can go both ways.
Fighting war crimes with war crimes doesn’t make it okay
It’s called fight for freedom. The fuck are they supposed to do ? accept being massacre , just wait for the next bomb to kill their entire family ? Wtf ?
that’s a kindergarten level of doing things. “uuuuuuugh you did that to me imma do the same for you uuuuuuugh”. that’s straight up pathetic.
Your argumentation is pretty shortened. Its the same argument if somebody say, Israel is fighting for its freedom after anti semitic movements and nazism in central and eastern europe.
There are no rights, when it comes to harming innocent civilians.
Edit: On both sides of course, same.goes for the army of Israel and not helping civilians.
Isreal is killing civilians deliberately to punish them for their fight freedom. Colonizers in the past used this tactic with every country they colonized. The colonizer must not feel safe in the land he’s stealing. The colonizer need to fucking leave.
If roles were reversed gaza wouldn’t exist at all
Isreal shouldn’t have existed.
Better start another war to remove them. That’ll work. Even if that were true it ignores the reality it’s there now.
Earth is dying, ressources depleting and temperature are rising. Do you expect a bright future ahead ? By 2050, the Middle East will have unbearable heat waves and it will be getting worse from there. It’s there now , yes, but doubt it’ll be there in the next century. Most humanity either, but that’s a bonus.
I am pretty sure that Ukraine attacked Russia, after Russia started stealing it’s land.
you mean attacking military infrastructure after one year+ of shelling? Thats something completely different.
If Ukraine did or does war crimes, they should be condemned.
you mean attacking military infrastructure one year+ of shelling?
That’s not as bad as 17years of starvation and oppression.
Ukraine is very organized compared to Hamas; they have an actual government that’s allowed to function and can instruct it’s troops.
If Russia was surrounding Ukraine while the US wasn’t giving aid to them, the Ukrainian government would either not exist, or become a “terrorist group” that’s divided into a dozen militants that are barely organized. An attack formed by this group would be devastating to Russian civilians, because even if the head of this organization intends on not hurting civilians, will the militant groups that are mostly comprised of radicalized Ukrainians looking for revenge care?
Thats something completely different. If Ukraine did or does war crimes, they should be condemned.
Ukraine should start committing war crimes, maybe that would get them more US support.
Or they would get completely wiped out. Like look at the occupied territory of Ukraine.
Yea lets commit war crimes, who doesn’t want to live in such a world.
Or they would get completely wiped out. Like look at the occupied territory of Ukraine.
Oh, so if you are fighting a bigger country and don’t have allies, just die. Very smart move.
If the purpose of the comment is to show that the occupation is being merciful by not wiping out Palestine, then you might be ignoring that they’re doing just that.
Just look at how much space settlements are taking up in the West bank. They’re just doing it more slowly because they’ll have useful agents like you to defend them after Palestinians inevitably resort to violence.
The US wouldn’t even condemn the building of these settlements, even though their condemnation would do absolutely nothing.
Yea lets commit war crimes, who doesn’t want to live in such a world.
We’re already here.
… this is a joke right? Israel has been attacking Palestine for 75 fucking years. So it’s OK if it’s one year, but not 75?
First of all, don’t put words in my mouth.
This conflict is not one directional. Please check your history books,.or Wikipedia.
Defending is not attacking. Words matter
Defending what? Is it their land they’re defending? Last time I checked Russia was claiming that the land belonged either to them or to an independent state. That would be attacking.
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Yeah, the fact that your president sided with the colonizer was the most ironic shit ever . You’re fight for freedom is a terrorist act to Russia but i don’t side with a colonizer ever.
brainwashing in action.
There’s no worst brainwashing than being for massacre and genocide and defending it.
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I seen what Isreal did is doing and are planning to continue doing and they’re worst than even fucking WW2 Germany.
A terrorist attack that targeted civilians exclusively and subsequently slowly killing hostages while using them for propaganda videos and shooting at fleeing Palestinians is not “fighting for freedom”.
Educate yourself on the entire conflict before you publicly support terrorism.
Don’t worry i read the long list of Israel crimes, saw enough video,images of what’s Israel has done to Palestinians to be well educated. At least enough that you’re bullshit pro Isreal propaganda doesn’t work.
What a stupid comparison. How do you even think those are semi related
I geuss Palestinians don’t deserve to fight their freedom according to you.
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Hamas doesn’t even claim to represent all of Palestine. They represent the Gaza strip which they governed legitimately after a free and fair election. They would indeed probably win in the west bank too if the collaboration government there held elections, but the Axis of Resistance is a broad coalition of groups opposing the illegal “Israeli” occupation of their land and ethnic cleansing of their people, and includes all sorts of colorful groups like the Marxist PFLP and general-nationalist Lion’s Den, as well as foreign groups like Hezbollah.
It’s just that braindead western propaganda only talks about Hamas because they’re the scariest to white people. They’re “like ISIS” as the vile Zionist pundits are quick to remind you every time they come up in the news (simply a ridiculous, childish comparison). Calling it the “Hamas-Israel war” is intentional to obscure the fact that it is the Zionist entity that is waging a war against the entire population of Palestine, and has been doing so for decades.
Hamas was elected seventeen years ago.
“Comiting”
Can say the same thing about Hamas and their supporters. We should keep out of this mess. There’s no solution and it won’t end well. Don’t get involved.
I think allowing a nation to commit genocide just because we don’t want to get involved sets a dangerous precedent
It would hardly be the first time.
I’d settle for “not actively supporting it” at this point.
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Israel could simply have not starved the people living in the Gaza strip to death over the course of decades while occasionally flicking airstrikes at them, which they were doing long before October.
I often wonder how people can forget this considering Isreal has been commiting genocide, ethnic cleansing, hate crimes since it’s inception like wtf ?
It’s actually surprising that Hamas didn’t get more votes in the election, when the other option was getting ruled by Fatah. Who would want the enemy’s puppet governing them?
What’s the point of voting when you could have your entire family obliterated at any instant ? Women in palestine have said that their only wish when their children dies in a strike is to find their bodies intact and not pieces by pieces. Just remembering these words is making me sick and They’re living it. Fuck Isreal and anyone that defend it.
There was an IDF representative who said that they were not going for accuracy. Which means that they are intentionally killing civilians.
Actually, weren’t they severely embarrassed by those recent attacks, having been totally caught off guard? Maybe we’re overestimating just how good their forces really are.
I think you are overestimating the value of special forces. We kind of mythologize them with our media, but they are not action heroes. You arnt going to send them into a hostile city where Hamas is not in uniform, planned for the retaliation, had time to prepare, and expect them to come out with low casualties.
For example of what this looks like with the US, refer to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)
Even the US after 9-11 didn’t just send in spec ops after Osama, they went in whole hog. And that was estimated at about 4.5 million casualties all around.
It sucks, but Hamas isn’t going to start wearing uniforms and abiding by the Geneva convention any time soon.
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The cup looked rather big to me, but I didn’t know how big 44oz was. Guys, it’s 1.3 liters! Why tf are they carrying a 1.3 liter cup? Do they really drink that much in one day?
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is going off the scales rn at some of the comments in this threadthankfully our great mods have already banned most of the bloodthirsty zionists on our end so we dont have to see their shit unless i choose to peek over into the instance this was posted from to see the full comments section
I think I’ll choose Sprite instead.
Is the intent to drive activity by letting the glaring holes in logic?
This is very funny.
Having said that, i rather not be involved in that conflict.
Those guys seem to have beef going on from babylonian times where everybody themsleves where diferent people afaik.
Seems to me like the holy land itself is cursed and its neighboors too.
So yeah i rather just lol at this meme.
The 1000+ Palestinian kids being killed daily by Israeli forces are victims of this “beef” stretching back thousands of years, which is messed up and unfair (stating it mildly). I think that’s what most people are pointing out, that and Israel bombing hospitals.
Yes
I’m going to walk directly away from this and I’m bringing my ten foot pole with me.
We went full Reddit here… Same brain dead comments of your average sports fan… Everything about this is shit.
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did not put these out when russia attacked ukraine.
How many people were even on Lemmy in February 2022? You’re probably wondering why Obama didn’t stop 9/11, too.
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are you really arguing that russia killing ukrainians should give israel a pass to start indiscriminately murdering civilians at an even faster rate?
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