As fighting continues between Israel and Hamas, social discord is emerging in Germany.

As fighting continues between Israel and Hamas, social discord is emerging in Germany.

  • Treczoks@kbin.social
    4·
    1 year ago

    German (or anyone elses) support for Israel is first and foremost challenged on the streets of Gaza City. Especially where houses, schools, and hospitals are bombed because the IDF thinks there might be terrorists.

    • ceiphas@feddit.de
      194·
      1 year ago

      just because we find war apalling doesn’t mean we’re all nazis

      • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
        61·
        1 year ago

        I mean i’m totally against what Israel is currently and has been doing, but i do understand the perspective, there IS a lot of antisemite(as in anti-jew) mixing in with the protest, and it shows in a lot of incident, and that need to be tackled and condemned as well.

        • ceiphas@feddit.de
          3·
          1 year ago

          yes it has to be condemed, but not in the way of “we cannot tolerate hate against jews, we must support israel”

          for us states are separate from religion, i can condemn the cruelty of israel without hating jews. i can condemn the cruelty of the hamas without hating moslems.

          but if anybody is against israels current actions they are instantly marked as antisemitic, so they animate more hate against israel, and the real antisemites get cocky.

          ich critique about a country, a party, a politician or an opinion becomes a hate crime, we’re just a short step away from fascism

        • ceiphas@feddit.de
          33·
          1 year ago

          I did, and it’s just as one-sided as most of the articles i see, some are only pro palestine, some are only pro-israel, but i am german, i don’t want to pick a side, just like in a football match.

          i find it appalling, how israel (not “the jews”, but the state) treated palestinians for the last about 60 years, it’s an apartheid system designed to oppress them.

          i find it appalling that the hamas attacked israel targetting mostly civilians.

          i find it appalling how israel supported by all western countries sets gaza under siege, and mass murders civilians an terrorists alike, and talk about them as if they were animals.

          i dont want to pick sides, both are disgusting.

          just because germany tried to eradicate the jews 80 years ago does not mean i will support the state of israel to eradicate the palestinians.

            • ceiphas@feddit.de
              2·
              1 year ago

              first, that was before the current conflict, and second, i dont’t say there arent nazis in germany ther are about 100% more nazis in germany than i would like, but its the same in every country.

              i just think the politicians handle it badly when the intertwine the guilt of the holocaust with the unconditional support for israel, because the israel of today has nothing to do with the oppressed and hunted jews of WW2, they are now the oppressors.

              the hamas is condemned for their actions israel should be, too