• kiranraine@reddthat.com
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      Its been there awhile with these people…I wish I was kidding but they believe Mexico and other countries that way are so evil this is reasonable. Their stereotypes just seem to get more and more crazy that they believe…

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        Many conservatives think that Mexico is a problem the same way they think that Native American tribes self governance is a problem. The Mexican history is that of the native Mexicans winning out over the Spanish and forming their country and many conservatives are still pissed about the Alamo because they think we should have kept going south in conquest.

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          Yea which is why I wish it was easier to take them down when they threaten violence to send us into a war. Since I know I can’t get things done to show I’m not capable myself for that or a lot of things(the audhd panics and meltdowns are oof with his stressed I stay…). Like the fact they won’t believe they’re in the minority sucks 😕

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              Also, many undocumented immigrants who would normally be involved in post-storm cleanup and rebuilding are avoiding Florida after Hurricane Idalia because of DeSantis’ policies.

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      Real patriots want to declare war on Mexico then you’re not a real patriot. We need more patriots in this country to make America great again. And we’ll make them pay for it! Mark my words Mexico will pay for the wall. Some of them are good people too but they will pay for the wall when we win the war. SAD but TRUE.

      /s

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      We’re on the verge of seeing a presidential candidate, during a debate, shove his hand down the back of his pants, pull out a handful of crap, and throw it at his opponent on live television…and still manage to win the election somehow.

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      Fuck our actual shit world, I want the “makes sense” world.

      Those who are losing don’t think a pyric victory is all that bad. As the social war wins move more in one direction, I expect to see more bullshittery happen.

      The only thing we can do is fight for what’s right, and never stop doing that. Things will get better again, eventually. Or the dolphins and the cockroaches will look around at the charred landscape and wonder “WTF?”.

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    I’m sorry, why the fuck are these people allowed to be in politics? He’s openly advocating for war with our neighbor, get this fuckwad out of politics. Let him go fight a war first-hand if he’s so eager to get his dumbass killed. I feel like a requirement for getting into politics should be some sort of political “killswitch”, as soon as you start talking crazy like this, you’re out.

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      Nearly all of my friends are Mexican citizens that moved to the States for work or folks that have family in Mexico. Why the fuck does DeSantis think like this? Hell even the conservative Latinos in the border states couldn’t support this nonsense right?

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    That’s… that’s just great Ron. Hey, ya figure they might shoot back? With their army and navy that they definitely have? Dumb motherfucker.

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      What, are you just leaving out the enormous costs of the Vietnam, Korean and Cold Wars? The Gulf War?

      America has hugely benefited from warfare.

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        Missing the point on purpose there to fit your agenda? OP is CLEARLY talking about nextdoor neighbors. When Vietnam moves continents, you let us know…

        Quick edit - I upvoted your comment on JAG at Gitmo and DeSantis being a black hole for ethics, so I"m genuinely wondering why you’re making the point about the Us and Wars.

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    This is the guy who was the JAG at Gitmo during the torture debacle, right? Just checking.

    He is the antithesis of ethics.

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    But has the US ruled out using missiles on desantis

    Seriously though, look at the terror Ukraine has been able to accomplish inside Russia with a hell of a lot less than what Mexico has. You guys want missiles blowing shit up in San Antonio and phoenix?

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      The cartels have been VERY careful keeping their violence on the Mexican side of the border, and not kidnapping Americans (usually), because there’s no better way to get yourself connected to God’s wifi. A war would basically throw all that out the window. The border towns like San Antonio would erupt with the same sort of cartel violence you see already in Mexico. Families of soldiers in those areas would find themselves turning into targets.

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      Outside of any in a military base, he doesn’t. It was a question about if he would authorize an aerial attack if he were voted president…

      That said… he’s an idiot for even thinking that would be a good idea

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      Because they are bullies at heart and the look at the current and past administrations and think they don’t bully people enough so when someone offers to be a bully, and represent their interests in a violent manner, they get a hard-on.

      I was raised to believe that we’re all decent people at heart but to be honest the last 10 years have changed my mind about that. I think some people are just bad eggs now. I’m not proposing to do anything about it but it’s just depressing to realize that some people suck beyond the reach of society.

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        Great comment, and I share a lot of that sentiment. What always confounded me was what portion of these people are textbook evil (eg, psychopathic, greedy/selfish, etc.) versus gullible and ignorant. That is, what percent if we had enough time and educated them enough could we reach? I say this as someone who grew up in a rural Appalachia republican household. My family voted for Bush. My parents marched in pro-life rallies. But fortunately thanks to a couple different factors, my entire family pivoted 180 to become progressive Dems. So they’re out there…

        Regardless I don’t believe it’s worth the time to try changing them. I think efforts are better utilized in appealing to the newcomers of politics and fence sitters who haven’t been fully sucker into the right-wing echochamber.

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          We seem to share some similar vectors here, beyond the point of coincidence IMHO. Upstare NY raised. I still remember mom taking the 3 of us out to picket. Ill never ever ever forget how it felt holding the picket signs of fetus remains, while standing outside abortion clinics heckling young women as they scurried past sobbing. I’m still trying to forgive myself for it, even though I was too young to have any say in the matter.

          Sadly, most if my family is still grazing the fatty grasses of self indulgent politics. A lifetime of obvious hypocrisy was enough to sour my tastebuds on the matters at hand.

          I don’t see it as a equation about “is the effort worth it”, it’s really more that I don’t feel I have a right to tell others how to feel or act or exist. It’s half the issue I have with their stance; they feel they do have that right.

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    If he gets elected, Russia is going to have nuclear missles stationed in Florida for use agaisted Cuba.

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    Let’s be honest. He knows he won’t use missiles he just knows his base will want him to be ambiguous on it

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    I don’t like DeSantis either but if you read the article, the question itself was loaded. I mean the headlines are a slippery slope argument

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      “Depending on the circumstances, I would be open to using whatever means available based on our goals and the guidance provided by advisors, including military leadership.”

      Headline: “Politician doesn’t rule out using nuclear weapons against Canada!!!”