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I had this dream in 2010 (not literally a dream, just a notion) that someday, we’d replace desktops with phones… like, sit down at a desk, attach it to a dock, it would connect to a monitor, mouse and keyboard and you could use it like a desktop PC. I suppose we could already do that, other than that the software would still be phone apps not made to be used with a mouse or for the most part a landscape screen.
I don’t think we’ll see it for a few years, but I feel like Apple has laid out their plans for this when they announced the VisionPro. It runs iPhone and iPad apps in Stage Manager. So does the iPad Pro. And I can definitely see that it’s a possibility for the phones in the future.
Now the chips in the phones aren’t M-series, so it might be a while until we’ve got the horsepower, and I’m sure there’s some developer-changes necessary as well, but it doesn’t seem out of the question.
The A17 Pro is pretty close to the M1 in benchmarks, and that’s more than enough for most users. Presumably it’d still be iOS, so existing knowledge and experience would apply, they’re just need to design and test their UIs for larger landscape screens, which they may already be doing for iPads.
Could it handle doing that all day? That would so cool, but aren’t there thermal limitations?
Probably not, for reasons you stated. But for a typical workload I doubt that would even matter. If you would have otherwise considered a MacBook air, this would still probably be a sufficient replacement.
i have a feeling stage manager support with be the flagship iPhone 16 pro (ultra?) feature
I have been using this for actual years at this point (S21 Ultra)
I had a phone in 2011 called the Motorola Atrix 4G that did this. It didn’t do this particularly well, but it had a dock with HDMI and USB ports and such. There was also a laptop-shaped dock that had a built-in monitor, keyboard, and trackpad.
I once torrented a movie on the phone, plugged it into the dock, and watched it on the TV. I controlled it with a Bluetooth mouse. It worked fine.
I do this with my iPad a lot, though obviously not a full “desktop experience.” It’s close enough for normal stuff.
I wonder how much different ios is versus iPadOS in terms of allowing for something like stage manager to work on the phone if it’s plugged in. I imagine it may be non trivial right now. But obviously they could always make changes.
You’re describing Samsung Dex
Doesn’t count until apple makes up a word for it.
AirDesk.
This only encourages my theory that apple is going to release their own game console (or beefed up microconsole Apple TV refresh?) and mobile is the first step to test interest
They wouldn’t be going so hard with AAA publishers and pursuing graphical fidelity (ray tracing) if they weren’t
I would shocked if apple tried breaking into console wars.
I’ll even be surprised if any of the handhelds other than steamdeck + switch survive the decade.
They actually made an attempt with the pippin way back.
It didn’t do well.
Only way Apple would do it is buying up studios like Microsoft, and that truly would be a hellscape of those are the only two companies left. Neither have any taste in the industry.
They tried one before (Apple Pippin LOL)
Why wouldn’t they just make a service on the phone and then a controller to play it?
I can already remote play games on Xbox and ps5 with my iPhone. With a Bluetooth paired controller and display port output wouldn’t the essentially be 95% of the way to a cool steam-link type device?
Hmm… That is a valid point. I just have a hunch…especially now that they’re experimenting with HDR on DisplayPort
i thought it was usb 2.0 speeds
Those aren’t contradictory. DP is via connection to GPU using the high speed lanes and the 2.0 USB is from the A16 chip, which was designed with USB2.0 over lightning in mind from my understanding.
You said something I didn’t even think about: The a16 in the iPhone 15 is last year’s chip. Of course it doesn’t have usb 3.0 or anything else, just the 2.0 speeds it was designed for.
I do wonder, however, if the A17 will retain the new updated usb feature that the A17 Pro has (clearly they’re binning something or other)
USB3 is at this point 15 years old and USB2 predates iPhones completely. Not sure how that is understandable and/or acceptable. It also has nothing to do with main chip, since IO chip is separate.
The IO chip is specifically not separate in the A17
The IO chip is separate in some of their tablets (apparently there’s an old ipad air with a14 that has a separate IO chip to support 3.0), but I think for phones apple typically groups them together.
Kinda sad apple continued using lightning with usb 2.0 just to maintain their proprietary interface and didn’t even both upgrading it.
Because they take last years “pro” and shove it as this years regular. Half of the work, double the sales. This time they had to adhere to USB type C because of EU regulation, so they glued connector to outdated IO chip and made it work just barely.
But it will be hobbled by Apple to 640x480x16 colors because “copyright protection” or somesuch nonsense.
