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    The woman, 75, […] had grown weary of having to maintain her sons, 40 and 42, and on several occasions tried to convince them to find a more autonomous living arrangement, especially as each had a job. […] The mother was also annoyed that her sons did not contribute to the household expenses or chores

    Yeah, I’d be really pissed as well.

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      The woman was 75 yo and will be probably needing assistance soon, she’ll regret that decision bitterly.

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          It could be she made a mistake during their upbringing, if they never have had to do chores as kids, how can you expect them to start at 40?

          I’m not sure about the boys doing chores culture in Italy?

          My parents would have kicked me out instantly if I lived at home, had a job and didn’t contribute and help with chores.

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            if they never have had to do chores as kids, how can you expect them to start at 40?

            Because they are 40 goddamn years old, that’s how. Sure, you can blame your parents for your upbringing. But at a certain point, you need to start taking responsibility for that shit. Your parents can’t fix you at 40, only you can do that. And if you can’t figure that out, that’s on you. Not your parents.

            There comes a time you grow the fuck up and take responsibility for your own life.

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              Exactly, at 40 you can google how to do any chore. I was doing chores at a very early age and enjoyed the sense of contributing to the household and the independence.

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              I agree that you should take responsibility for your own life sometimes after you become an adult latest in like the 20s.

              In this case the mother have done all the chores for 40 years, like what was expected of a woman 100-200 years ago, and I’m sure part of it is she still see them as her boys, it just took her 20 years to reach her limit.

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            Let’s be honest, it’s pretty easy to learn that stuff.

            Making your 75 year old mum do it is frankly disgusting.

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              If you somehow think I am on the side of the two sons you are mistaken.

              And let’s be even more honest and use our common sense, there’s some parents that don’t let their kids do chores, and how should they then learn?

              If she always have done all chores and never been tough on them, they have been taught to expect she does all the chores and all the shopping.

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                I think a 40 year old should be able to figure it out pretty easily.

                You don’t need a degree to use a mop or a washing machine.

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                  should be able to figure it out pretty easily.

                  My 7 year old knows how to find a youtube video… watch it… and do it herself. A 40 year old should be more than capable unless mentally handicapped. Also learning things by observation is a thing too… Are we to believe that in the 40 years of their life, they’ve NEVER seens how mom loads the dishwasher?

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        If they were in their 40’s, have jobs, but were still not even helping out around the house, I kind of doubt they’d be stepping up to the plate to help out anytime soon.

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        It’s much more likely to be like this article. She deserves a chance to live her own life, not be a cook, maid, housekeeper, laundress, personal shopper and bank for her fully-grown sons. … Oh, sorry, wait, I misspelt leeches.

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      It’s her fault these people exist in the first place. The entitlement of parents that kick out their children when they aren’t convenient anymore is astonishing.

      Edit: Downvoted by entitled parents who never thought about what it means to yank an existence out of the void and put it in the meat cage and just had kids cause “thats what you do” yiiiikes

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        Are your parents pressuring you to move out of their basement? Your seemed to take this article personally.

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        Not a parent, just fuck your ignorant entitled ass. Stupid selfish prick.

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        These are grown adults in their 40s. You really think the mom should just forever be their maid? Even at the age of 75?

        At some point they just have to take responsibility for themselves. Even if they have to, or want to live at home, they should absolutely be contributing if they are able bodied.

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        when they aren’t convenient anymore

        Uh… you realize that they weren’t convenient… well… EVER.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The proportion of Italian adults still living with their parents has long been high but one mother was forced to take drastic action after her two sons – both in their 40s – refused to abandon the comforts of the family home.

    The woman, 75, from the northern city of Pavia, had grown weary of having to maintain her sons, 40 and 42, and on several occasions tried to convince them to find a more autonomous living arrangement, especially as each had a job.

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    In her ruling, Caterbi said that while the men still living at home was initially warranted due to the “obligation of the parent to provide maintenance”, it was no longer justifiable given the fact that they were over 40.

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    Although there has always been a culture in Italy of multiple generations living under one roof, the number of young adults staying longer in the family home has risen in recent years, mostly as a result of tough economic conditions and the lengthy amount of time it takes to find a stable job.

    However, many are dismissed as bamboccioni (big babies), a term first used by an Italian politician in 2007 to mock adults still living with their parents and which suggests that some do it for the convenience of free room and board.

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    In one case, in 2020, Italy’s supreme court rejected the appeal of a 35-year-old part-time musician, who argued that his €20,000 (£17,400) income wasn’t enough to live off and he needed money from his parents.

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    This is entertaining, but I seriously don’t understand how it’s appropriate for the World News community.