I don’t think I have all the answers, buddy, I’m just defending myself from the accusation that because I happen to not have a favorable view of your country in regards to immigration (and mysteriously, it gets less and less favorable the more actually interact with Canadians) that means I’ve somehow fallen prey to propaganda
I tried to defend myself by showing the statistics I had seen showing that Canadians aren’t currently partial to immigrants, and you are responding by essentially saying ‘responding with statistics must mean you think you know everything, you know-it-all.’ I am willing to learn and engage with actual evidence, this is just an ad hominem attack
Genuinely, where do you think I should get my impression of Canada from? Perhaps this Lemmy instance, where the prevailing response to me going: ‘hey, Canada has a lot of hatred towards immigrants, as a victim of a fascist government forced to flee my home country I decided to search elsewhere’ was ‘um, ACTUALLY, the place you have chosen to go to ALSO hates PEOPLE LIKE YOU, and you (the victim of a fascist government trying to kill you for being a minority) should’ve DONE YOUR RESEARCH(??) because Canada ALSO HAS A MASSIVE PROPAGANDA PROBLEM which is why you should COME TO CANADA INSTEAD’
Frankly, I fear all I have learned from this is that Canadians, unlike the stereotype, are deeply unempathetic people who currently seem to be pushing a narrative of “Canada good, America (and Americans) bad.” Hence the claims I’ve seen on Lemmy that ‘Americans deserve to suffer under fascism’ because ‘we didn’t work/vote/volunteer hard enough to stop it.’
In this case, America = Bad bc American doctors (smart) are leaving. Canada = Good bc American doctors want to go there. So, under this framing, me criticizing Canadian attitudes against immigration somehow becomes me (stupid American) hating on Canada as a whole. Queue the dogpiling about how I’m an ‘uninformed idiot’ and I’ve ‘bought the propaganda’ despite the fact I’ve been researching how to immigrate for the past few months
Forgive me if this came out a bit hostile, I’m a bit frustrated right now, you know, from the whole ‘fleeing my country that wants to genocide me’ thing. As a warning, I’d be wary of dismissing the blatantly nationalistic attitudes of your fellow countrymen as “oh that’s just how Canadians on Reddit behave.” After all, glossing over just how many fascists my country had was what got us Trump.
I’m not sure why you’re talking if you already have all the answers buddy.
I don’t think I have all the answers, buddy, I’m just defending myself from the accusation that because I happen to not have a favorable view of your country in regards to immigration (and mysteriously, it gets less and less favorable the more actually interact with Canadians) that means I’ve somehow fallen prey to propaganda
I tried to defend myself by showing the statistics I had seen showing that Canadians aren’t currently partial to immigrants, and you are responding by essentially saying ‘responding with statistics must mean you think you know everything, you know-it-all.’ I am willing to learn and engage with actual evidence, this is just an ad hominem attack
They got their impression of Canada from reddit
Genuinely, where do you think I should get my impression of Canada from? Perhaps this Lemmy instance, where the prevailing response to me going: ‘hey, Canada has a lot of hatred towards immigrants, as a victim of a fascist government forced to flee my home country I decided to search elsewhere’ was ‘um, ACTUALLY, the place you have chosen to go to ALSO hates PEOPLE LIKE YOU, and you (the victim of a fascist government trying to kill you for being a minority) should’ve DONE YOUR RESEARCH(??) because Canada ALSO HAS A MASSIVE PROPAGANDA PROBLEM which is why you should COME TO CANADA INSTEAD’
Frankly, I fear all I have learned from this is that Canadians, unlike the stereotype, are deeply unempathetic people who currently seem to be pushing a narrative of “Canada good, America (and Americans) bad.” Hence the claims I’ve seen on Lemmy that ‘Americans deserve to suffer under fascism’ because ‘we didn’t work/vote/volunteer hard enough to stop it.’
In this case, America = Bad bc American doctors (smart) are leaving. Canada = Good bc American doctors want to go there. So, under this framing, me criticizing Canadian attitudes against immigration somehow becomes me (stupid American) hating on Canada as a whole. Queue the dogpiling about how I’m an ‘uninformed idiot’ and I’ve ‘bought the propaganda’ despite the fact I’ve been researching how to immigrate for the past few months
Forgive me if this came out a bit hostile, I’m a bit frustrated right now, you know, from the whole ‘fleeing my country that wants to genocide me’ thing. As a warning, I’d be wary of dismissing the blatantly nationalistic attitudes of your fellow countrymen as “oh that’s just how Canadians on Reddit behave.” After all, glossing over just how many fascists my country had was what got us Trump.