First off fuck trump
But my hot take is that google should show it as gulf of america and remove holidays from the calendar. Google should be a source of fact and the fact is the Republican administration has officially renamed the gulf of Mexico and removed those as federally recognized holidays.
Google shouldn’t be “protesting”, the blame here is on the US government. I dont want Google’s “opinion” on things when I search. Be mad at Google when they also refuse to do black history doodles on their front page (like, right now I think)
I still think the name is apt, as “America” refers to the entire super-continent, North and South.
In accordance with the more appropriate name for the great Gulf, I hereby propose that all Mexicans become also known as Americans, and all people from the United States henceforth become known as “USians”.
I further propose this confer full, nay, enhanced US citizenship to all Americans. If they even want that shit anymore.
Is it like this for everyone?
Seems to depend where you’re located. US here:
It is for me in Europe
This caused me to delete Google Maps, but their removal of Black History month from Google Calendar is what’s making me contemplate migrating everything else away from them…
If you can, add a 1-star review in Play Store for Google Maps while you’re at it. And a comment why.
I did the commenting, they deleted my review for “politics”.
I started last week. Been contemplating doing it for a while and this whole disgusting series of events pushed me over the edge.
Cancelled every paying google services I had and I’ve been replacing their apps with alternatives slowly but surely.
For now it looks like this on my phone
- Tidal replaces youtube music
- Tom Tom replaced Waze unless I find something better
- Back to using firefox instead of chrome with google / Facebook tracking blocking extensions and more
- Got a proton mail and in the process of moving everything that matters to it
Only thing I would love that I can’t get right now is an alternative OS for my phone that I don’t have to tinker a lot with, I know rhey exist but everything I read on the subject basically says: don’t bother. Setting up Endeavour OS on my laptop is already a lot of work for a 42 year old Linux noob like me, even though it’s far from the most complicated distro from what I understand…
I also set another launcher on my smart tv, deactivated all the google accounts that I could and I’m in the process of setting up a plex server on my laptop which I’ll fill with loot from the High Seas. It’s really stupid of them because I was fine paying for the convenience of streaming but now I’m gonna make a point of not doing it and I’ll probably never gonna come back.
Next, I need to figure out how to migrate my website / domain out of google but that’s a next week problem. By the end of the winter, I should be properly google / Microsoft free.
It’s a harsh process I’m not gonna lie but it is very rewarding even though, I don’t lie to myself about the fact that it’s just another drop in the bucket and it’s not gonna change much in the end but at least I live better with myself by doing it.
There’s some recent controversy with proton mail. And I thought Google domains was sold to squarespace?
Same, I wish I could do this for work, as we use G Suite :(. Times like these make me appreciate open source alternatives though, but there’s a lot of work to make those tools more widely available.
Organic Maps is cool.
Any coders want to instantly have one of the most popular extensions for firefox, chrome, etc? It seems this would be the type of thing that would be relatively easy for an extension/add-on to fix.
Unfortunately probably not so easy. Maps is canvas I think, so it’s very hard to “intercept” the name. If Maps were rendered via SVG, and if the Gulf always has the same ID, then it could be possible.
OpenStreet maps 😎
I just downloaded it, and I have to say it’s pretty rough compared with Google maps. There’s no traffic data, and it struggles to even find basic things like sushi restaurants that are clearly labeled if you search for sushi. Let alone difficult things like doctor’s offices.
Downloaded what though? OpenStreetMap is just a data source. There are a number of different maps that use it.
I haven’t used it in awhile but I think Magic Earth has traffic data, I’m not sure where it’s sourced from but the map data they use is from OSM.
Yes. It has been renamed.
That singlehandedly caused me to begin actively moving away from Google starting yesterday. Gonna be a pain in the ass, but I’m working on it.
My interim e-mail solution is mailbox.org. Trying a 30-day free trial and annoyed at having to pay, but fuck it. It’s cheap. Like $1-$3/month. Will see.
I’m assuming OpenStreetMaps has an app and plan to check today.
I’ve started decluttering/backing up my Drive and Photos so that I can unsubscribe from their recently-changed shit subscription structure without losing essential files.
Organic Maps is the recommendation I’ve been seeing for OSM. I’ve been using it for a week or so and have been liking it so far.
Same, really want to switch, and I think after finishing this project I’m done with windows and Google. Not gonna lie, I dread switching agenda, drive, mail, maps… A lot of fucking useful stuff that I use for everything, but I don’t just want to think they are too big to fail. Fuck their behaviour.
I’m in a similar situation. Not to make the switch harder on you, but someone here posted a page with a bunch of reviews of email providers, calling out things like cost, privacy practices, and cooperation with the federal government. Here’s their entry on mailbox.org. You might want to read through some of them while you’re still in the free trial.
Of course. Ugh. Thank you for the resource.
Where can I find a sexy russian mommy to dump gallons of milk down my throat until my tummy explodes sending a creamy tsunami down the hillside killing everyone in its way.
I actually know the answer to this, but don’t need the added competition.
Y’know it costs nothing to not post that right?
Was it worth nothing or priceless?
My day was simultaneously both ruined and made far more exciting for the existence of that comment. So maybe net-0? I suppose in a roundabout way you could say you’re solving climate change!
Less than nothing, it made the world a worse place.
I don’t think it would kill everyone on the way down, I’m sure a large percentage of innocent gawkers would end up getting tsunami down their own throats until secondary tsunamis, (“two-namis”) eject across the entire shire
Like a dreamy milky fission of burst tummies.
As all things should be
She looks like Emma Roberts
No, don’t use the sexy meme template for this change. It’s just a dumb dick measuring move. It doesn’t deserve that honor.
The tuba meme would be appropriate.
I was curious about Open Street Maps, since anyone can edit it.
Gulf of America comes up specifically as an official name for US, and there is also a note about how if you change the English name without agreement in the discussion then it will be reverted:
Discussion is here: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571
It seems the general consensus is that the US have that as an official name, but it’s not the common English name so name:en stays as the Gulf of Mexico.
I was very happy to open up organic maps and see it still listed as Mexico.
I’m still trying to get out of Google maps.
OSM ftw
Even the german language version does this now.
How long until the US pull a China and attack mexican fishing boats?
Google has had to deal with disputed place names a number of times.
There’s the Sea of Japan which has the parenthesized name “East Sea”, which I think is only used in Korea.
There’s the Persian Gulf sometimes known as the Arabian gulf.
There’s the Falkland Islands which the Argentinians refer to as Islas Malvinas.
What’s really dumb about this is that it goes directly against the old policy (from 2008) where they said:
When our policy says that we display the “primary, common, local” names for a body of water, each of those three adjectives has an important and distinct meaning. By saying “primary”, we aim to include names of dominant use, rather than having to add every conceivable local nickname or variation. By saying “common”, we mean to include names which are in widespread daily use, rather than giving immediate recognition to any arbitrary governmental re-naming. In other words, if a ruler announced that henceforth the Pacific Ocean would be named after her mother, we would not add that placemark unless and until the name came into common usage.
But, the Gulf of “America” is not in common usage anywhere. Canada should see only “Gulf of Mexico”, even though it shares a language with the country that officially renamed it to “Gulf of America”. And in particular Germany shouldn’t see anything about “Amerika” because that’s just not a thing in any German-speaking country.
Really, it should be Gulf of America (Gulf of Mexico) in the US and whatever the local name is everywhere else.
They’ve disabled posting too:
I was crucified when I compared the two on an authoritarian leftist instance I shall not name, but I think people here can agree that despite having very different colours and propaganda, they both are both converging with the facist side of the spectrum.
Well those are american companies. If the gov vhanges the name of.a.street we expect.them to change in the maps right? In this case they are following protocol
Yes, but:
Who the hell says the president can rename things via executive order? Surely that’s not iterated as a power of the office.
People toeing the line without question is how fascism works. Someone at the Board on Geographic Names bent over faster than a dippy bird.
Aug. 30, 2015 President Obama announced on Sunday that Mount McKinley was being renamed Denali, using his executive power to restore an Alaska Native name with deep cultural significance to the tallest mountain in North America.
You mean like that ?
Edit: I’m in no way endorsing what trump did, which I think was a petty vindictive move on his part, I’m just pointing out that he’s far from the first to have used an executive order to rename geographical features. If anyone thinks I’m being pro trump, just take a look at my post history.
Ok…
So the main difference here is Denali is fully contained within the borders of the country choosing to name it.
The Gulf of Mexico is International Waters, and the US doesn’t even have the majority of shoreline… Which is why we have an international standards body to name international waters, so people don’t get confused.
For example, an airline flight from Tampa to Cancun reports its flying over the Gulf of America to a Mexican air traffic controller… The controller has no idea what the hell he is talking about, because THE ENTIRE GLOBE calls it “Gulf of Mexico”.
Is the country between France and Poland called, Deutschland, Allemagne, or Germany?
It’s completely outside of the borders of the US but the name used for that country is completely different from then name people from that area would call it.
Which name is right? Which name should be displayed on the map? It depends on a few things.
“… to restore an Alaska Native name…”
That’s taking the name back to Koyukon. It’s not remotely equivalent to making a name up; like they’ve tried with the Gulf of Mexico. Poor equivalence to conflate the two.
Read what I said again. I’m equating the actions that both presidents took to effect the change of name, not the justification or reasoning behind it. People are getting upset that trump used an executive order. There are plenty of reasons to be upset at this, but that isn’t one.
Seriously? You think people are complaining about the means used as opposed to the action sanctioned… interesting. I’ve yet to hear anyone complain about the method - they all seem pissed about the change itself; not how it was achieved. Maybe you’re in different comms to the ones I’ve been browsing…
Why don’t you start by reading the comment that I replied to ?
Actually, I’ll paste it here. They said “Who the hell says the president can rename things via executive order? Surely that’s not iterated as a power of the office.”
… to which I replied to point out that other presidents have used the same power, and then went on to explain that the issue isn’t the use of an executive order, but rather the lack of any reasonable justification beyond petty vindictiveness.
If you want to be angry, be angry at trump, not random people on the internet
Yeah, what the shit is that? Why can the president just make that call? Can he just rename Alabama to fucknutistan? Just because it’s accurate and historical?
Seems like overreach. It should be a board of representative people following standards. Not the whim of a false monarch
It turns out that it was nothing more than norms and decorum in politics that was holding your country together. When someone comes along and takes a dump on those unwritten rules, they find they can get away with a lot of stuff that nobody thought should be possible .
The first time he learned which civil servants stopped him. This time he’s firing then all before they can.
Painfully true.
Oh wait. Was that supposed to be a “but Obama did it” gotcha? I’m bad at understanding social context online.
If it was, then all I can say is that it’s better to have standards by which we judge everyone fairly, instead of giving failures like trump a pass because he happens to be Republican this week.
It was an example of a president using executive power to rename a geographical feature, because the previous post was suggesting that such action is unheard of. It’s not. Having said that, when Obama did it, it was in response to about 35 years of petitions and requests, and not the actions of a weak minded manchild craving for attention
The more quickly the world decouples from the US, the better.
And for the citizens, the sooner we can decouple from billionaires the better.
They really are fucking everything up. Every billionaire in this country needs to be de-billionaired. It’s going to likely come down to the people doing this at this rate.
decouple them from life
China world love to come in and fill this gap. But who will keep the shipping lanes free of piracy? They have the world’s largest navy.
who will keep the shipping lanes free of piracy?
You know the US isn’t patrolling the shipping lanes they don’t use right?
Also, no, they never managed to keep the shipping lanes free of piracy.
eh, they aren’t that different
For now
