I went to my Senators local offices yesterday, along with a few hundred others. We got one of them to send out a staffer to talk.
What have others here done? What have you got planned for the next few days?
America is dying with a whimper! I expected more. As a non american all I ever hear is about how americans will never be conquered. But yet, they look to have just rolled over and accepted defeat
All those guns and the only bullet fired was by a Trump supporter.
Really makes you think.
Have you seen the movie: WALL-E with all the fat people on the floating chairs?
That’s America.
We are still too comfortable.
“Comfortable”:
Where having 3 jobs doesn’t even give a proper living wage… Where a health crisis will bankrupt you… Where the common people pay the taxes for the richest. Where vacation days are tightly controlled and preferrably denied. Already the doctrine is: “You Live To Work”.
And this is before Trump started slashing all government aid and will give even more money to the rich, thinking the populace will make up the difference on the countries income…
Now he just about personally has total control of the government payment system, down to the social serurity number of each individual. A good weapon to have.
(Had a long rant here about the US’ bleak future, but it’s not befitting the discussion at this moment)
My point being, things are only a very small drop to where it’s too late and the shackles are clamped on.
The ones sworn in to uphold the law and constitution are the ones who need to step in now, but are too afraid or corrupted to risk standing up.
King Trump already is above regular checks and balances.
americans will never be conquered
Not by outside forces, only from within.
But Russia has conquered you?
Kinda sorta, but not in the traditional meaning of “conquered.” They’ve enabled the worst of us to attack our democracy, but in the end it’s still Americans who have chosen to do this.
Wow they sent out a staffer‽ you’ve basically won!
I bet that staffer came back and did nothing with your chat.
You’re not going to “talk” your way into freedom, you are going to have to fight for it. Protests and other legal disobedience will not help. Action matters, words are meaningless vs Trump.
Given the much more aggressive action by Senate Democrats over the past day, where they’ve kept debate going overnight to draw out Vought’s confirmation as long as possible, I’d say they’re listening
Not in this thread so far, but I keep hearing people say that the Dems’ hands are tied, and that there is simply nothing they can do. As you note, this complete and utter horseshit. Here are four tangible things Democratic reps can do right now to fight this:
- Grind the Senate to a halt. Filibuster everything. Put holds on everything.
- Not a single Democratic vote for a continuing resolution or debt ceiling increase without major concessions. Namely, completely shutting down DOGE and expelling Musk entirely from the government. The government is better shut down than left running with these freaks in charge.
- Participate directly in street protests. Sitting reps are much less likely to be assaulted by police officers, and they have the clout and resources to deal with being arrested.
- Do you hear another Democratic rep dare to utter the word “bipartisanship?” Hang them from a lamppost.
I think it’s well past time for some “legitimate political discourse”
I’ve been wondering what people who are peaceful protesting think they are accomplishing. The ruling class obviously is trying to fuck you over, while you are asking nicely for these sociopaths to care for your problems. They have demonstrated they care little for you. Not your opinion, you as a person. They want you to shut up and work for them or die.
This isn’t about convincing ruling class, it’s about building momentum and rallying the people. They don’t have the power to stop all of us.
showing eachother we have eachother’s back
Absolutely. I also felt it was important to demonstrate to people that it is still safe to resist. A lot of people are already too scared to do anything even though the Trump administration hasn’t done a single thing to crack down on dissent yet.
I saw so many people afraid this was a trick, or the police were going to swoop in and arrest everyone. But guess what, we all went out there, it was a great time and nothing bad happened. Hopefully more people will show up for the next one. One protest won’t do much it’s true—but a sustained campaign can shift the conversation.
The last time a protest accomplished anything was when people burned buildings and a police precinct to demand the arrest of George Floyd’s murderer.
There are many layers to this.
At the highest? It shows politicians there is public support for something. Many politicians still think there will be elections in 4 years (hell, probably not even 2) and will make it a point to act so that they don’t get primary’d and so forth. We already saw shades of this with congress realizing what signs their checks and protesting musk dismantling the treasury two days ago. Albeit, the outcome of that is very much “okay, we’ll keep most of the foxes out of the hen house but not all of them” but… baby steps.
The next level is to show the american people there is support. That said… the news media basically refused to cover any of the protests. THAT said, I assume the usual talking heads on twitch et al did (although I think hasan is still on vacation and making videos showing he is bigger than a Japanese person?). It is well worth remembering that a ridiculous number of people didn’t even realize biden wasn’t running last year.
And then we start getting to the point where lemmy admins will nuke stuff. So I’ll just cut off after this point. Cops and fat white kids who want to shoot some n****rs are going to act sooner than later. That will be caught on camera.
Is Hasan the horse porn loli pedo guy?
I don’t know what nonsense internet beefs he is in right now but I know there is someone dropping “bombshells” every day. I would be wary of associating yourself with that dumbfuckery.
Hasan Piker is formerly an intern (and nepo baby) at the young turks who struck out on his own and gained pretty large fame around the 2020 US election because of his open support for Sanders and general willingness to watch and React to political content with a heavy emphasis on (American) socialist stances.
In recent years a lot of us have mostly written him off as a tankie due to his initial stance on the war in Ukraine and his ongoing stance toward the genocide in Palestine. Most of the “genocide joe” takes and the like were regurgitated endlessly by him. He has still done a lot of good during that period (his coverage of the SAG strikes were spectacular) but… yeah.
That said, he is still probably THE biggest pundit/Voice on the left and him covering the protests would go a long way toward making ordinary people aware of just how fucked everything is.
I’ve been wondering what people who are peaceful protesting think they are accomplishing.
Nothing at “the top” is going to change any time soon, no matter what anyone does, and certainly not on the basis of anything that happens on one day. Every bit of resistance, large and small, cumulative over time, will gum up the gears of fascism and give people a bit of energy to face another day - and maybe do a little bit more tomorrow.
Today’s protester can become tomorrow’s mutual aid, next week’s smuggler, next month’s partisan.
We can accomplish a lot actually.
They’re still responsive to people showing that they’re organized enough to upset their hold on power.
We can show people that they’re not alone; courage is contagious.
It’s an entry point for getting steadily more aggressive forms of action.
Luigi showed far more than you ever will with this waste of time.
Be more like him, take action.
And how many CEOs have you shot?
