Americans are joining the Chinese social media app en masse to protest an imminent TikTok ban.

  • American users have flocked to Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu in defiance of security warnings.
  • Chinese and American users have engaged in surprisingly friendly conversations about each other’s lives.
  • The influx of American users could burden Xiaohongshu’s censorship mechanism, experts say.
  • SpikedPunchVictim@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    This might have an interesting side effect. Western voices and opinions being shared enmasse with Chinese youths on platforms they’re comfortable with. It will be interesting to see how the Chinese government responds to this

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    This is a fine example of how the american government doesn’t care about the interests of americans.

    The government only exists to serve the wealthiest among us. Some of those wealthy people are upset that Chinese aristocrats are getting all that money.

    This trade war only exists because rich americans want more money for themselves. It has nothing to do with national security and you’re a useful idiot if you think otherwise.

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      You don’t lift 800+ million people out of poverty by concentrating all of the profits among a small few. And China has increasingly been prosecuting their wealthy.

      Which is what they really don’t want us learning to do.

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        Capitalists use the same exact argument for why outsourcing labor to the poorest countries is actually a good thing. For real, I’ve argued so many right wingers saying “searching for the cheapest labor actually helps the worlds economy because you’re lifting those poor people of _____ out of poverty! It doesn’t matter that it’s only pennies/day, because to them, that’s a lot of money!”

        Pretty goddamn gross behavior.

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        You do it by exploiting the billions outside your borders from countries even more poor like mine where they sell their garbage low quality products that cant be repaired or recycled, from shitty earphones to bikes that start breaking down in a year, taking advantage of poor people who cant afford to buy anything of better quality. China isnt better than us when it comes to exploitation and inequality.

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        you don’t lift 800+ million people out of poverty by concentrating all of the profits among a small few.

        This is false attribution.
        There’s no way to verify how other political system would have worked for China. Maybe it would have worked even better? Taiwan for one is richer, stronger and happier than China per capita so does that mean dictatoriship -> democracy is a better system? Do you see the flaw in this attribution logic now? So, unless you have a time machine…

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      It has everything to do with national security, they just don’t consider common people as part of their nation same as slaves weren’t.

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        Yeah, national security for the rich, they don’t want us plebes getting any ideas about what real justice looks like.

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    Man, Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts must be really shit if the TikTokers didn’t even consider them for a second lmao

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    I’m amazed at all the CCP dick sucking here. It’s like I stumbled into r/Sino

    操你中國政府

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    Just proving US government right tbh.

    So, US said: “TikTok is too powerful and has too much influence” and then people continue to be influenced. I kid you not, most trending rednote tiktoks right now are about price comparison between China and US with topics like: “veggies are like 2$ in China when they are 6$ in the US” with absolutely zero awareness of how economies work:

    • median hourly salary in the US: 27 USD
    • median hourly salary in China: 5 USD

    Chinese vegetables are more expensive.

    You could attribute this to people just being financially stupid but I think there’s definitely some truth from US government pov that China has a lot of propaganda power over US citizens and I say this as non-american myself as it’s quite apparent as a 3rd party observer.

    Personally I still think low level laws that protect privacy of all americans is the way to go but America will never sacrifice free market money like that.

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    The hexies are so excited about this too. They’ve got a thread up (erroneously) hoping that Americans will now stop believing that Chinese people are bad, because they can’t face the truth that Americans (who aren’t magats) only think the Chinese government is an authoritarian shit show and have no problem with regular Chinese citizens.

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    I thought the difference in humor would take a while to bridge but it’s very familiar. Day in the life of an american type videos with road rage, burgers, shitcoins, podcasts and pancakes

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    Dumbest shit ever. let me run to the PRC for my entertainment. Like was TikTok really that good? I never used it, other than the time long ago when it was first getting traction and my coworker asked me to get into her 12 yr old daughter’s account (super easy BTW) and see what she was doing on there. surprise! nothing but 30 year old men following her and watching her doing dances. I never touched it since.

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      what do you expect though the USA is picking groups of people to threaten, the American dream is dead they brag that the economy is doing so good when most peoples lives have gotten worse every second of our lives is being monetized of course the people will look elsewhere

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      Tiktok shows you more of what you engage in and throws some randomness in there so you don’t get stuck in a local minimum. It’s like when YouTube’s algorithm kinda worked and you could see how it’d possibly be better; bytedance actually pulled it off instead of enshittifying.

      And it takes time for the algorithm to learn your tastes. If you’re a mouth breather at heart you’re gonna get mouth breather content no matter how much you try and change it. If you’re a perv and linger on thirst traps… You’re going to see more thirst traps.

      With your described scenario, that’s not unique to tiktok- that can happen on any platform when the child is unsupervised. It could have been twitch, Roblox, Instagram, Snapchat, it myriad other platforms; the real problem there is inattentive parenting.

      I’ve learned about more shitty local government practices from tiktok than any other platform. I’ve been exposed to points of view I’d never otherwise see. Random videos have triggered just as much progress on my mental health as years of therapy. I’ve found people far more articulate than me explaining shit that combats my family’s far right talking points in a way where they actually listen and change their mind, and vice versa.

      I’ve also consumed an inordinate amount of white hot memes and mountains of brain rot lol

      But yeah. The TT algorithm is a mirror (given time). It reflects your persona back at you with the type of content you see.

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        So having a coworker break into your child’s account is inattentive parenting?

        Tell me you don’t have kids.

        No really, please confirm.

        I don’t want to see “kids in cages” on the news again.

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          I have kids. I don’t see how that’s relevant here.

          Children shouldn’t have social media accounts in my opinion. Nothing to attack or break into if it doesn’t exist.

          A coworker shouldn’t know enough or otherwise have enough access to your child such that they can break into their accounts.

          Failing all that, parents need to have frank discussions about the potential dangers of internet fans turning into real life people, and some of the more severe potential consequences.

          Even without those three layers of failure, your kids need to know about basic online account security, like using unique strong passwords and two factor authentication.

          That all being said- I don’t know the people or the situation. But from your short account of things that’s what I see as wrong with the situation.

          In general, the social networks of today are optimized for extracting value and attention from adult brains; an incomplete adolescent brain stands no chance.

          Kids can still socialize electronically just fine in group chats with the advent of RCS implementation on both major phone platforms.

          Not sure what kids in cages have to do with anything or why they were mentioned.

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            Kids in cages is mentioned because penetrating your kids’ social media account is a break of trust and privacy, which is a very bad form of parenting, a good parent would have trust relationship and could ask the child to show the weird behavior on their phone

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          It does get stuck in a rut sometimes. If you kill the app and come back to it lsome time ater, that signals that they need to shake things up so your “randomness factor” (my term) gets boosted the next time you start scrolling.

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        Surprise! Pedophiles are everywhere! Even in the Fediverse!

        Though that doesn’t excuses anything, though.

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    It’s really cool. The people are super nice and welcoming. The cities are incredible. Their cost of living is leaps and bounds better than ours. Life is affordable there.

    They just got it better. The cold war propaganda we’ve been spoonfed from birth was all lies.

    We are the bad place.