• guy@piefed.social
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    6 hours ago

    See, that’s the issue.
    Pointing at state A and saying it’s bad invokes the response “Well B is by far more bad, if you look at contextualized extent, impact, and level of badness!” thus down playing the bad state A has done.

    It’s like, A hit X with a fist, but B hit Y with a bat, twice and on the shins, so what A did isn’t so bad actually. Instead of just admitting hitting is wrong.

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      6 hours ago

      It’s best to correctly contextualize all bad. Simply saying X is bad if one country does .5X and another does 2X equalizes each into merely “X.”

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              5 hours ago

              Bad actions have different intensities and scales. Such equal condemnation for unequal evil leads to people who refuse to take a Pro-Palestinian stance, which implicitly sides with Israel as the stronger force.

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                The whole point is to condemn evil whatever the intensity, scale or who is responsible.
                But somehow it always comes to a comparison of evilness (obviously always the US) which somehow excuses (mostly Chinese or Russian) atrocities. And that is the issue.

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                  I just showed you the consequence of your framing, correct? The goal isn’t to excuse anything, but to come to correct conclusions. Your line of thinking supports the genocide of Palestinians, because it becomes a toothless “both sides bad,” resulting in “continue the course.” It’s the equivalent of coming out and saying “cancer is bad,” it doesn’t change anything.

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                    5 hours ago

                    But it doesn’t. It perfectly fine to say Hamas terrorist attacks are wrong and at the same town saying the Israeli genocide is wrong.

                    The problem is that when Russia bombs a children’s hospital and it’s pointed out as a war crime, there’s always some schmuck saying “Oh yeah?! But the US is responsible for hundreds of thousand dead civilians in Afghanistan!”
                    And yes, that is fucking heineous but it doesn’t make leveling a hospital less severe. 🙄

                    A bad is a bad.