• quixotic120@lemmy.world
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    This is a regularly done conservative tactic. Attack research because it’s frequently stupid sounding. But sometimes stupid sounding research leads to incredible things.

    Sometimes you research the mating habits of red eyed tree frogs and you learn a lot for conservation efforts and stuff about the species. Conservatives love this because they can hand wave and go “who cares about this thing I personally don’t care about”

    But those science nerds sometimes do stuff like researching gila venom in the 70s which eventually led to ozempic now, one of the potential major treatments for t2 diabetes, a scourge of our morbidly obese modern society. This has gigantic positive implications for public health and financial benefits

    The whole point is you can’t know until you’re done what will be groundbreaking

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      It’s an even more fundamental conservative tactic. What they do is find a single example of something they think they can easily deride and hold it up as representative of that entire thing. Think welfare, immigration, criminal justice, reproductive rights, gender identity, and much more. Right wing media is full of single cases they beat into their viewerships’ minds while ignoring all other cases

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    Well, that was something that benefitted women, so it’s clearly not efficient for any of the grey, white men in this committee

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    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4263280/#:~:text=Results showed that male quail,test (Coc → Sal).

    Sunfish I can’t find the actual study, it appears it was done in 1975, and was a big thing that congress at the time used as the examples of wasteful spending.

    First 2 I can’t really say the value or lack of value of. I mean they were studies on effects of dangerous substances on behavior. and yes of course like all studies you pick animals that you might be able to get the effects of. Obviously a lot of science is just randomly probing around looking for oddities that give you a hypothesis to try and refine later into something useful. Obviously addictive substances is an important topic to understand, and poking around randomly might actually give solutions that could be discovered IMO.

    Now the last one is the only one I’d agree, isn’t exactly super useful.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2033014/feds-blow-700k-to-find-out-what-really-happened-on-the-moon/

    was done in 2016.

    All that being said… lets also take a serious statement on cost here… a million dollars in 2016. That’s like, 15 minutes of iraq war money.

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    This isn’t about efficiency, it’s about attacking science as a tool for evaluating truth. It’s a way to discredit the authority of expertise and shape the course of research with selective funding and demonization.

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      I think it’s because Elon Musk just really wanted to be the head of a department called “D.O.G.E.”. The whole attacking science thing is just a bonus.

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    It’s terrifying how easy it is to manipulate a population that’s so biscously anti intellectual.

    This is the dunning Kruger effect in real life. They’re too stupid to understand science so they assume science doesn’t make any sense.

    I’m sure they would consider it a waste to “measure bubbles in antarctic sea ice” because they don’t understand that’s what climate models are based on and vindicated by. And even if they did understand it theyd still be against it.

    It’s tough because obviously as communists you have to try to maintain a belief everybody is deserving of basic dignity and respect but then you see somebody yell “don’t you fucking tell me what to do” as they climb over the “do not enter, high voltage” sign of a substation.

    It’s a lot harder to maintain the belief that any loss of life is a tragedy when you have a guy in a klan robe saying it’s their constitutional right to to wrap their lips around the exhaust pipe of a diesel truck specifically modified to cause as many emissions as humanly possible.

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    Science inherently involves the reproduction of work that’s already been done. That’s how the process ensures reproducibility. Talking about the efficiency of science makes very little sense because the savings bought by science are privatized, viewed like externalities.