"It's a huge disaster, but what is the fallout?" asks one source after the sequel to the $1 billion hit bombs at the box office and is rejected by critics and audiences alike.
  • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukMEnglish
    38·
    28 days ago

    Neither Phillips nor Phoenix was even sure about making a sequel and, for a time, contemplated putting on a Broadway show instead, before ultimately committing to the movie and bringing aboard Gaga in a role inspired by the comic book character Harley Quinn. The idea for the sequel came to Phoenix in a dream, and he and Phillips brought the idea to Emmerich, according to sources.

    In the end, some are saying that Joker: Folie à Deux is a very expensive art film. But when asked who the intended audience was, one outside source sums it up this way: “For Joaquin.”

    I’d have loved to be a fly on the wall:

    I don’t want to make a sequel movie to Joker.

    Well wait until you hear this: Joaquin has had a dream…

    Oh dear.

    And they are going to pay you $20M each!

    I’m listening.

    • njm1314@lemmy.worldEnglish
      61·
      28 days ago

      Oh good Lord I saw your quote here and I thought they were talking about Roland Emmerich for a sec. That would have been wild if he was involved in this film.

      • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
        3·
        28 days ago

        I will throw down for emmerich the dude knows how to entertain

        Is it high art? No. But jesus is it a spectacle.

    • synae[he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      4·
      28 days ago

      In the end, some are saying that Joker: Folie à Deux is a very expensive art film.

      Oh wow, that is exactly what I said to my friends as we left the theater

      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.worldEnglish
        41·
        28 days ago

        It’s enough to quash any curiosity I have about it. I wonder what the overall sentiment is for musicals.

        Personally, I’ve always hated TV episodes that turn a non-musical show musical.

    • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.worldEnglish
      64·
      28 days ago

      That killed any interest I had in this franchise. The addition of Gaga solidified I wouldn’t be watching this. One of the best psychological, low key dramas of the last decade, so let’s make the sequel a musical and add a trendy pop star into it! Not to mention Gaga is an overrated, overproduced nepo baby. But that’s just my opinion

  • steve_floof@lemm.eeEnglish
    141·
    28 days ago

    Box office isn’t everything, not anymore. They’ll make it back in collectible trash they sell to incels

      • Glytch@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        28 days ago

        There’s a whole online industry dedicated to making more incels, folks like Jordan Peterson. It’s been depressingly effective.

        • WaxedWookie@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          27 days ago

          Manufacturing weirdos that are disconnected from reality is straightforward, and the fascists are investing heavily in it because from there, they practically push themselves into voting against their own interests with hate, conspiracism, and memes. Steve Bannon has explicitly stated that this is a core tactic of his.

  • reddig33@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    28 days ago

    Interesting that it had no test screening. Would the movie have been savable with reshoots and re-edits?

    • Teils13@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
      71·
      28 days ago

      Only if they reshoot the entire film with another script, they practically did a Matrix 4 again, just because a minority of fans of the first film had bad takes they ruined what many normal people loved.

    • Klordok@lemmy.worldEnglish
      111·
      28 days ago

      Same. It’s not a bad film. It is a fairly logical progression from the first movie. I was actually surprised it wasn’t more fantastical. There were several points where they could have escalated to a city wide musical caper, but they kept it grounded.

        • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          1·
          27 days ago

          It’s a conceit of the genre, it gets a pass.

          Trying to explain why people are breaking into song doesn’t ground it any more, and trying to make it “realistic” singing such as part of a stage show or rehearsals just weakens the strengths of the genre.