Maybe I’m crazy, but this conflict is shining the biggest floodlight on all the fascism around the world. I hope enough people have the wherewithal to notice.
Wars do include a lot of misinformation, and everything is just so quick. We have to dismiss first, and try to find the extraordinary evidence. I couldn’t. You can’t prove something doesn’t exist, or something didn’t happen.
Unfortunately nobody got time to read everything in detail. We skim through everything and try to come up with some sense out of it according to our world views.
Not surprising at all, no. But these anti-semites were islamic (not the white neo-nazi variety). And considering the small crowds in London dancing around waving swastikas and a car full of people in Melbourne driving around saying they were “hunting Jews”, combined with Hamas’s formally stated aims of killing Jews and destroying the Jewish state, you might be entitled to wonder how many actually aren’t anti-Semites.
I wonder why the Arab nations surrounding Israel have invaded it twice since the late 1940s? Or why Hamas (the ‘elected’ governing party of Gaza) have the destruction of the Jewish state (and, until a few years ago, also the indiscriminate killing of any Jews) as among their formally stated objectives.
If you’re surprised at the idea that Palestinians might not like Jews very much you should do a bit more reading before wading in with accusations of racism.
I’ve also heard that some black people in South Africa attacked white people. It’s not racist to think there were racially motivated black terrorist groups. It’s racist to think all black people were terrorists.
You fluidly dance between Hamas, Arab nations, Palestinians, and “Islamic” people as a whole, because that’s how racists take the sins of individuals to justify their prejudice.
You wasted absolutely no time trivialising reality to suit your simplistic narrative.
The groups I’m ‘fluidly dancing’ between are not fringe offshoots, they are the ‘elected’ governing body of Gaza and a coalition of Arab nation-states who have invaded Israel more than once. To provide you some focus you badly need, Hamas’s charter is very clear on its goals and objectives around the state of Israel and its population of Jews. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2023/10/hamas-covenant-israel-attack-war-genocide/675602/
Maybe if the governments capable of speaking up and de-escalating the situation in Gaza actually did so, people won’t be driven to extremes.
It’s not easy to do the right thing. It is however, easy to oppress those that don’t have power, and this is an example of it.
I’m not justifying anti-semitism, those people should absolutely be punished, but we can’t be tone deaf about how most governments allied with the West have become silent and aren’t willing do anything, let alone de-escalate the killing of innocent civilians.
Maybe I’m crazy, but this conflict is shining the biggest floodlight on all the fascism around the world. I hope enough people have the wherewithal to notice.
Due process isn’t really a thing in most places. Commonwealth nations, especially, seem to grant “extraordinary powers” to their police forces.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment
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It is an intimidation technique, though.
I’ve refrained from even acknowledging Palestinian peoples struggle in public to reduce risk of being tagged as a anti-fascist, or pro-terrorist.
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The beheading of babies is fake news, though. And use of fake news is signature tactics of far right public opinion manipulation.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middleeast/israel-hamas-beheading-claims-intl/index.html https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-a-shocking-report-on-40-babies-in-israel-was-deemed-disinformation-before-then-being-verified/ar-AA1hZUff https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-pictures-terrorists-beheading-children-white-house-2023-10?op=1
Shit is complex, friend. :/
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Sources for confirmation are the IDF and IDF provided pictures. https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329
There’s also reports that there are ai generated pictures trying to support these claims: https://www.samaa.tv/208732623-fact-check-ai-generated-burnt-baby-image-shared-amid-israel-hamas-war
Wars do include a lot of misinformation, and everything is just so quick. We have to dismiss first, and try to find the extraordinary evidence. I couldn’t. You can’t prove something doesn’t exist, or something didn’t happen.
Unfortunately nobody got time to read everything in detail. We skim through everything and try to come up with some sense out of it according to our world views.
Holy shit you are a moron
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Not surprising at all, no. But these anti-semites were islamic (not the white neo-nazi variety). And considering the small crowds in London dancing around waving swastikas and a car full of people in Melbourne driving around saying they were “hunting Jews”, combined with Hamas’s formally stated aims of killing Jews and destroying the Jewish state, you might be entitled to wonder how many actually aren’t anti-Semites.
Uh no, that’s racist as fuck.
I wonder why the Arab nations surrounding Israel have invaded it twice since the late 1940s? Or why Hamas (the ‘elected’ governing party of Gaza) have the destruction of the Jewish state (and, until a few years ago, also the indiscriminate killing of any Jews) as among their formally stated objectives.
If you’re surprised at the idea that Palestinians might not like Jews very much you should do a bit more reading before wading in with accusations of racism.
I’ve also heard that some black people in South Africa attacked white people. It’s not racist to think there were racially motivated black terrorist groups. It’s racist to think all black people were terrorists.
You fluidly dance between Hamas, Arab nations, Palestinians, and “Islamic” people as a whole, because that’s how racists take the sins of individuals to justify their prejudice.
You wasted absolutely no time trivialising reality to suit your simplistic narrative.
The groups I’m ‘fluidly dancing’ between are not fringe offshoots, they are the ‘elected’ governing body of Gaza and a coalition of Arab nation-states who have invaded Israel more than once. To provide you some focus you badly need, Hamas’s charter is very clear on its goals and objectives around the state of Israel and its population of Jews. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2023/10/hamas-covenant-israel-attack-war-genocide/675602/
You still don’t get that extrapolating from “Hamas” to even “Palestinians” is wrong, let alone to Australian Muslims in general.
Maybe if the governments capable of speaking up and de-escalating the situation in Gaza actually did so, people won’t be driven to extremes.
It’s not easy to do the right thing. It is however, easy to oppress those that don’t have power, and this is an example of it.
I’m not justifying anti-semitism, those people should absolutely be punished, but we can’t be tone deaf about how most governments allied with the West have become silent and aren’t willing do anything, let alone de-escalate the killing of innocent civilians.
Keep in mind, all it takes are 2 protestors to be saying ‘gas the jews’ for your statement to be true.
Honestly, you have to be a special kind of stupid to think any anti-Israel protests aren’t going to have at least some people saying that.
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