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I think this has been known for a long time and is used by the west (i.e. the guardian) as a way to distance themselves from ukraine right before it goes down. That way they can claim moral victory.
Watch all the NAFO crowd vanish in thin air and pretend like Ukraine never existed, just like they did before 2022
Instead they will both-sides it and make Ukraine into a Finland-analog. It was the “bad leaders” that betrayed Ukraine and not the azov nazis. Some will even have a “realization” like they did with Iraq and Vietnam.
Yup, and the fact the very fact that they’re all of a sudden remembering about corruption in Ukraine is an indication that things are going badly.
Its absurd though, isnt it? Like people will swallow this so willingly its unbelievable.
How do we stop this?
I think we just have to wait till the whole narrative implodes when Russia wins the war.
It feels like that is mere weeks away. But doesnt it feel like that for years at this point?
I dunno man. I feel like we need to step up our propaganda game. My wife keeps reading stalin to me and it makes me wonder if we need to come up with slogans as they did back then “cooperate with the workers and the poor peasants” and such.
If we were one world ML party, we could direct such slogans. For ukraine it would be “stop sending arms to nazis, find common ground with russia”
And that we would communicate to commi parties and put it on flags around the world.
I think that would be a good idea.
It’s hard to say when the breaking point will come. I certainly expected it to happen sooner, and I’ve learned to tamper my expectations. I think ultimately what it’ll come down to is that Ukraine will run out of manpower and the AFU will lose fighting potential. That’s what happened to the Germans in WW2. There was basically a static front for years, but then once the collapse started it unfolded at lightning speed.
I do think having an international movement would be valuable. There needs to be a lot more worker solidarity across nations which would in turn help combat jingoism that’s so prevalent nowadays.
Great points all round. What exactly is jingoism?
It’s basically nationalism expressed in form of support for an aggressive foreign policy.
They essentially have given up on Guljaipole (Makhno’s hometown), which gives russia a open hand until Dnipro and Zaporizhia and will essentially collapse the supply lines leading into the Donbass.
Similarly with Pokrovsk which was a big logistics hub as well.
I wouldn’t jump to conclusions yet about Gulyaipole. Let’s wait another week and see what happens. They can probably scrounge up some manpower from other fronts and throw it in that direction to delay the Russians for a bit.
Pokrovsk/Krasnoarmeysk is all but impossible to reverse now because the Russians are entrenched but on the Zaporozhye front the Ukrainians had very little fortifications which also means that the Russians won’t have as much to take over and entrench themselves in. It’s all a question of how much Kiev wants to hollow out the other fronts in order to deny Russia the PR win of fast advances on this front.
And if there is one thing that you can consistently rely on Kiev to do is sacrifice men and materiel for PR points. Russia understands this and creates situations that force Kiev to increase the burn rate of their resources to prevent bad PR.
Good take on this whole story from “The Islander”:
Two days ago, Zelensky smirked into the cameras and said he wasn’t afraid of Trump.
Hour later, his palace was swarmed by Ukraine’s anti‑corruption agency. His billionaire Godfather fled. His justice Minister fell.
What came next wasn’t a rumor or a Russian op, it was The Spectator, Britain’s establishment mouthpiece, publishing a headline that read: “The scandal that could bring down Volodymyr Zelensky.”
The loot? A solid-gold toilet was among the lavish pizes uncovered in raids linked to Timur Mindixel, Zelensky’s childhood friend, business partner, and long-time bagman. Cupboards stuffed with €200 bills. Lavish real estate deals. Kickbacks from $100 million in “fortification contracts” tied to Ukraine’s energy secze, including Energoatom, the state-run nuclear operator.
Mindich, co-owner of Zelensky’s Kvartal 95 studio, birthday party host, wartime drone contractor, is now gone. Fled the country just hours before the raids. Gone, like hunfreds of billions in Western aid. Gone, like the myth of Ukraine’s untouchable reformer.
But this isn’t just about one shady oligarch. The Justice Minister himself, German Galushchenko, has resigned under pressure. NABU’s investigation has now reached the upper decks of the Zelensky inner circle, and it didn’t get there by accident.
Just four months ago, Zelensky tried to destroy NABU and SAPO’s independence, ramming through emergency laws to fold them under presidential control. The justification? Vague mutterings of Russian infiltration. No proof. Just panic.
The move sparked the first mass protests in Kiev since the war began, the same Zelensky who once claimed total wartime unity found his own capital turning on him. Under pressure from Brussels, Washington, and the streets, he backed down. But not before exposing exactly what he feared: accountability.
Now, NABU has fired back with 70 coordinated raids, backed by over 1,000 hours of audio surveillance, some allegedly featuring Zelensky himself speaking in code at Mindich’s apartment. Yes, the president who loves the camera may soon be forced to explain what was said when he thought no one was watching.
The stakes? Existential. A full-scale internal war has now broken out between NABU/SAPO (funded and guided by the West) and the SBU (Zelensky’s domestic hammer). One serves empire. The other protects the throne. Ukraine, far from a sovereign nation, is being torn between two handlers, one local, one foreign.
Even former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko called it out: “Ukraine is turning into a disenfranchised colony.” She was mocked at the time.
Let’s talk about Fire Point, once a casting agency for Kvartal 95’s comedy shoots, now miraculously transformed into a multi-million-dollar weapons manufacturer. No competitive bidding. No transparency. Just a paper trail of war profiteering. Fire Point even “produces” phantom cruise missile now, the Flamingo, named perhaps for its elegance, elegance of laundering more Western tax dollars.
And what about the recordings? NABU teased snippets, muffled Russian dialogue between men using codenames. No full release yet. But that teaser wasn’t for the public. It was a message: we have the kompromat, and we’re not afraid to use it. Not against Putin. Against the puppet regime you built, Volodymyr.
Remember Maidan was sold as an uprising against corruption, but Zelensky seems to have outdone all of his predecessors combined.
The empire’s favorite hero has become its greatest liability. The golden toilets have returned, and this time, they’re flushing the myth itself. Seems as though Zelensky’s handlers are ready to flush him, but will be unable to wash their hands of their own corruption and guilt.
https://xcancel.com/IslanderWORLD/status/1988684874400805218
Yeah, that’s an excellent take on the whole thing. Zelensky is becoming a liability, and the US is reminding him not to get too uppity with them. The real issue is that even if Zelensky got removed, nothing would fundamentally change. We’ll just see somebody like Zaluzhny slide in and continue doing more o the same. At this point, I’m sure that the war will be decided militarily when the AFU fighting potential is exhausted. Seems like Alaska was the last chance for a diplomatic solution, and the US decided to blow it.
Doesn’t matter, really. He’s going to be brought down only when America decides he is no longer useful, like with Ngô Đình Diệm.
Nabu is run by Americans as I recall, so this may be the start of it.
Probably just pulling his leash, reminding him who owns him.
oh absolutely
Bodyguards wearing nazi insignia? not a problem. Kidnapping men and sending them into a meat grinder with no training? that’s fine. Never ordering a retreat to save soldiers when there is no hope of holding the position? “We don’t care.”
Stealing millions of dollars that was supposed to used helping the country? We expect that… but when you have out lived your usefulness? Well, this is what we will use that to nail you to the wall.
