Isn’t “I” also a pronoun? Making this sentence 2/3 pronouns.
At least that’s how it works in my native tongue.
Dang, the pronoun discussion has lead me to forget that pronouns include I, we and they. I’ll make use of this.
“What are your pronouns?”
“I / me”
Pretty sure Jesus didn’t speak english though. Some people in bible belt might disagree.
I of course don’t speak ancient languages, but I believe pronouns existed 2000 years ago too.
Yes, but some languages can drop the pronoun in favor of some other linguistic construct. For example in finnish 'I am driving" can be said “minä ajan” but “minä”(I) can be dropped completely to just “ajan” because base word for driving is “ajaa” and when I am doing it, it is inflected to “ajan”
That’s also true of Estonian and Spanish, but in the case of “I am he”, you’d shorten away the actor, but not the target of the action, so you’d keep one pronoun still at least.
Also the whole theoretical discussion is pointless because we probably have a guess of jesus’ native language and knowledge of pronoun system in it
Aramaic, maybe also Hebrew. Both have pronouns.
That’s John assuming Jesus’s pronouns.
John Jesus Jingleheimer Schmidt
Joey Jo-jo Jesus Shabadoo
His name is my name too
Whenever we go out…
Forgot the next bit!
John 18:6 ESV
When Jesus said to them, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground.
I usually think grammatical gender is pretty useless in Indo European languages, with most of them having to gender a washing machine, but afro Asiatic ones have a fun additional quirk: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarity_of_gender
Essentially the numbers have to be the opposite gender of whatever it’s married to.
Some languages just don’t have any genders which is better
Armenian and Persian are the main Indo European languages that don’t. The original Indo European language gender was based on if something had a spirit or not, not male or female.
You’re just jealous because english does not have grammatical gender.
This is wild! I have heard many crazy shit but this is new to me
Isn’t the capital H in He referring to God? Ie: “I am God”. Making it a noun (person, place or thing) rather than a pronoun in this instance?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverential_capitalization
Edited to add: “He” is still a pronoun, regardless of capitalization.
Ahh interesting!
Looking this passage up the “he” is not capitalized in the several I checked.
Depends on the translation, obviously since the greek doesn’t have capital letters.
Textus Receptus:
απεκριθησαν αυτω ιησουν τον ναζωραιον λεγει αυτοις ο ιησους εγω ειμι ειστηκει δε και ιουδας ο παραδιδους αυτον μετ αυτων
KJV italicises it
John 18:5 KJV
They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.
NASB capitalises it
They answered Him, “Jesus the Nazarene.” He *said to them, “I am He.” And Judas also, who was betraying Him, was standing with them.
NIV, ESV and USNT don’t
“Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “I am he,” Jesus said. (And Judas the traitor was standing there with them.)
They answered him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I am he.” Judas, who betrayed him, was standing with them.
“Jesus o Nazareth,” the’ reponed. “A be hïm,” qo he. (An Judas tha bethrayer wus stud thonner alang wi thaim.)
Only demons use pronouns:
My name is legion and my pronouns are they/them
Good guy Jesus paid his taxes concisely
Jesus be like
I am him.
Jesus, no he wasn’t.
Tbf also applies to “progressives” calling God “she” lol
Can’t say I’ve ever heard that, but I also have to chuckle at the idea of an omnipotent, omniscious, omnipresent, primordial entity that preceded all creation and being a force of nature unto itself having a gender at all.
Nobody ever said Jedus never used pronouns how stupid
So i take it his vehicle of choice is a donkey?
Deuteronomy 13:12
And He said, ‘the warming of the Earth shall not come to pass, for The Lord hath given thee Monster Trucks to roam its flat surface.’ And they believed him, for He was pandering, and they would believe anything to feel they owned the Libs
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America was not in the Bible. Hot Dogs were not in the Bible. Fireworks were not in the Bible. The constitution was not in the Bible. The second amendment was not in the Bible.
If these things are so good, yada yada…
My mother also talked about how one of the disciples died by being crucified upside down. Not only is this not in the Bible, the particular piece of literature describing the event never actually said he died.
I started enjoying the Bible in the same capacity someone enjoys Lord of the Rings or Dune. In doing so, I’ve 1) found it easier to read, and 2) found some certified gangster moments, like David holding up a piece of cloth to Saul and essentially going “coulda killed you in your sleep, biatch”
I’m digressing. Point is, these people have never actually read the Bible. They pretend to have, but they haven’t. To be fair, it’s a piece of literature so dense it makes Shakespeare look like Flake chocolate, but fuck…
And that’s a 3 time candidate for Congress…
Tbf that’s a low bar these days
Yeah, that’s actually what I pointed it out to illustrate.
They’re running people dumber than the contestants of Fuckboy Island and with fewer scruples than the contestants of i dunno, Survivor? 🤷
A great example is Elise Stefanik:
5 years ago, basically nobody outside of her district had ever heard of her.
Then she ignored reality more blatantly and more obnoxiously at the hearings preceding one of Trump’s impeachments than anyone except maybe Gym Jordan and Mark Meadows and people started talking about how she’s “a rising star of the Republican Party”
Now she’s the chair of the House Republican Conference and one of the favorites for the Mango Mussolini’s VP pick 🤦
Of course she is, she’s a good little lapdog spewing the shit they want people to hear.
That’s Jesus… They clearly said “Jedus”
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Apology accepted
Smells like a case of Cunningham’s Law.
Cunningham’s Law states “the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it’s to post the wrong answer.”
Technically he’s not necessarily wrong unless we can find proof of someone saying such things about Jedus
You severely underestimate the abject idiocy of conservatives.
